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Re: Show HN: Nub – A Bun-like all-in-one toolkit for Node.js

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Post by BearOso »

fartcoin67 wrote: post #57
BearOso wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm seeing lots of bots/agents misusing backticks like this. It's because people are writing agent plans in markdown and the agent thinks it's appropriate everywhere. Maybe you shouldn't be running all your comment replies through Claude.

Dude people have been doing this since long before LLMs. It's more an artifact of Slack than anything.

Slack uses this? Thanks for the info. I've never been forced into Slack, so I wasn't aware of that. Either way, it's stupid to use in places it doesn't induce formatting.

Re: Show HN: Nub – A Bun-like all-in-one toolkit for Node.js

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Post by BearOso »

jitl wrote: post #73
BearOso wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm seeing lots of bots/agents misusing backticks like this. It's because people are writing agent plans in markdown and the agent thinks it's appropriate everywhere. Maybe you shouldn't be running all your comment replies through Claude.

what are you talking about

Backticks ` ` are used to trigger code-style formatting in markdown. Since all the coding AIs are trained almost entirely on github, you see it everywhere in their output. They'll use it even in places where it's supposed to be just plain text, and almost always in git log messages, which by spec have no formatting.

Re: Show HN: Nub – A Bun-like all-in-one toolkit for Node.js

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Post by jitl »

BearOso wrote: post #82
jitl wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what are you talking about

Backticks ` ` are used to trigger code-style formatting in markdown. Since all the coding AIs are trained almost entirely on github, you see it everywhere in their output. They'll use it even in places where it's supposed to be just plain text, and almost always in git log messages, which by spec have no formatting.

i write markdown-ish text in any text box including using backticks for command names like `cat`, or use * for *emphasis* just like i did on IRC in the 2000s. these conventions in human plain text conversation predate markdown and AI by decades. that was the point of markdown: formalizing those kinds of conventions enough to turn them into deterministic rich styling.

HN itself renders * as emphasis, but not ` for "code"; this doesn't mean HN is a broken markdown machine or that i'm a bot. many hn comments use plain text conventions for links, see examples that use footnote style markdown-like links[0], I was [doing markdown links here back in 2017](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14763397) even though they've never been parsed by HN.

This kind of semantic formalism in text goes way back, its not so different from something like Chicago style citations first published in 1906 [1].

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47258996

[1]: https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/dam/jcr:bba47b07-61ba-4...

Re: Show HN: Nub – A Bun-like all-in-one toolkit for Node.js

#85

Post by sgammon »

love this, and the name "nub" is conceptually perfect

(1) adopts existing tech and improves, rather than a greenfield project with worse compat

(2) the way it uses existing node mechanisms to implement itself (+oxc) is very smart

(3) i like that the node.js-forever crowd has a way to use the newest stuff

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