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My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by cisophrene »

noxvilleza wrote: post #52
bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

With Sunshine (I looked at it ages ago but totally forgot about it), do you have to be logged in order to accept clients? With Steam remote play streaming it won't let me stream unless I'm logged in - which is a problem given that I leave my PC (Windows 10). in my bedroom and I don't want to leave it unlocked.

Sunshine will solve your problem, the computer does not need to be unlocked once the service run.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by cisophrene »

yellow_lead wrote: post #54
bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

Do you find Sunshine to be better than Steam's streaming?

I find the Sunshine clients to be much better. You can set them up with much more granularity than Steam client, which can help a lot depending on the type of game you want to play. You also have a variety of clients not just Moonlight, for ex, on iPad I can recommend VoidLink which is really well made and handle touch events beautifully, turning the iPad into an actual MS Surface with multi-touch support when streaming Windows.

I actually have an interesting setup to play Civ 4 with the family (best civ game, change my mind): the games are running on virtual machines on a headless servers and we play on iPads using the native touch controls. It's really nice user experience and I was surprised it worked so well on such an old game.

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #18
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #16

You cannot play two different games at the same time with your 50ft hdmi cable. Can't people see any usecase for the steam machine? I understand, you are not in the market for it. I am, I have a good usecase which possibly will make the cost drop below a ps5 over the years (if you include games cost)

Have you looked at what sort of FPS it gets on the games you want to play? Overall it's performance is... Quite poor even on the lowest settings for lots of games

The world is full of beautiful indie games, I barely play AAA games. But even then, I wouldn't consider it as a PRIMARY pc if you have budget for something more. It's a great secondary pc.

That's what I mean by "market", I don't think they are targeting the global segment

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by c-hendricks »

bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

Steam Remote Play sadly breaks down if anything involving Admin comes up. Task manager, admin prompt, etc.

Sunshine / moonlight can work but you need to run them as admin.

Sunshine / moonshine also have problems with the full DualSense features, you need to be wired, have VirtualHere set up, and even then it might not all work with all clients.

So yes both can work, but both have downsides that can be alleviated with an HDMI cable.

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

fbnlsr wrote: post #27
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #16

You cannot play two different games at the same time with your 50ft hdmi cable. Can't people see any usecase for the steam machine? I understand, you are not in the market for it. I am, I have a good usecase which possibly will make the cost drop below a ps5 over the years (if you include games cost)

> Can't people see any usecase for the steam machine? The only problem with the Steam Machine is the price tbh, and that's mainly Valve having a really bad luck with timing once again. Having a custom-made "Steam Machine" for the past 3 years thanks to ChimeraOS, it really changed the way I play for the better. I can play on my couch with my son and wife, and it made my wife (who wasn't really into gaming) buy a Stea…

That's where I am at, but I think me and you ARE the audience the Steam Machine is aimed at.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by c-hendricks »

Fizz43 wrote: post #60
bbrks wrote: post #39

If you already have Ethernet at both ends I cannot recommend enough game streaming. With the right setup it is almost identical to having my computer plugged in physically, and I am very sensitive to input latency. I can get 4K HDR 120Hz running over gigabit Ethernet without visually sacrificing too much on bitrate, but you can squeeze more bitrate at lower fps or 1440p (obviously) if that is your preference. You can…

what settings are you using? Game streaming from my PC to my steamdeck over ethernet for me feels like absolute shit. The quality gets destroyed every time i rotate the camera even on 1080p

With Steam Link I just press the "enhanced 1080p" or "4K" preset then tweak whatever else. The latest update allows up to 250mbps bitrate I think.

Re: My Steam Machine is a 50ft HDMI cable

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Post by c-hendricks »

weltensturm wrote: post #3

I have a 20m fibre optic cable, these things are great. Thinner than a standard cable. They are unidirectional, but mine has a dedicated copper line for CEC. 4k 120hz is no problem. I also have a Pulse Eight CEC adapter in the chain, but I had to swap its included HDMI cable for full bandwidth. Since I've switched to Linux I haven't had a chance to set up the software side for CEC though, does anyone happen to have r…

Valve's CEC stuff for the Steam Box is open source: https://github.com/OpenGamingCollective/linux-cec

Someone on HN posted a more official link recently but I can't find it right now.

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