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Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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Re: Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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My mind read it as "stickied".

Correct. We built it to integrate with vBulletin forums: https://partners.styckyd.com Our brand name is taken from "stickying" a post on a forum.

You need to get a proper domain name if you are serious about this as a business. Go get $10,000 and buy stickypost.com if you still like the name. Look at the comments in this thread discussing what it means.

Re: Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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Ebay works great for buyers now, it just sucks for sellers. I buy on Ebay all the time, you can find all kinds of things there really cheap.

Have you ever tried to get your money back after getting scammed as a buyer?

Never been scammed as a buyer in hundreds of transactions.

Re: Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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I keep reading such stories every week on HN.

This problem doesn't exists in Poland.

There is no such thing as chargeback because banking system runs on top of free, irreversible wire transfer, not credit cards.

The system is better because it's easier to trust established seller than to trust random buyer. Malicious sellers are very rare. Instead of chargebacks there are other protections:

a) Even 10$ items are treated as criminal offense (fraud).

b) Buyer can return anything in 10 days.

c) Sellers and buyers are linked to national id card which is hard to cheat. Police has 95+% success rate finding fraudsters.

d) Auction site has buyer protection, but it requires reporting on police.

Re: Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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Chargebacks are a part of doing business any time you accept credit cards, whether paypal is your merchant provider or not. The problem here is Visa/MC/Amex etc. Since you almost have to accept credit card payments these days, you're stuck with their terms. Since the banks all provide credit through these card providers, there's very little competition. There are numerous ways to virtually eliminate CC fraud but the…

What we need is a competitor that disrupts credit cards altogether http://www.dwolla.com

It's interesting that you mention Dwolla. Their approach is indeed to prevent fraud rather than charging back after it happens, but when people look at the hoops that Dwolla makes them jump though (linking a Facebook account, etc.) they usually go running right back to credit cards.

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Sue Paypal. It's an obvious scam, and they are, for some strange reason, ruling in favor of the scammer. Sue them for your money, for the time you spent dealing with them. Check out small claims court limits in your state, and sue them for the maximum. I bet you will win with all the documentation you have.

No idea if you should sue or not, but surely in this case it would be the credit card company who didn't investigate the chargeback who is the culprit, Paypal is somewhat beholden to their investigation. By just approving any chargeback and not doing any investigations to appeals they are abusing the system

You're assuming that Paypal didn't purposely withhold any provided proof of scam, to avoid further action on this issue. That appears to be exactly what Paypal did.

Re: Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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Meanwhile, as a purchaser on Paypal, you only get 45 days after the day of the transaction - which caught us out last week. We ordered some stuff from (at least theoretically) a reputable company. We had to pay about 2 months ago, but kept getting emails telling us that the stock hadn't arrived yet and to just be patient. Then a couple of weeks ago, they told us that they actualy didn't have the stock and that we'd h…

This happened to me. I ordered something, it took time to build and then by the time i figured out something was up i was out my cash. paypal wouldn't do anything. still trying to get it back over a year later.

Re: Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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A few years ago I sold an Android phone on eBay. A scammer bought it, claimed it was broken, and filed a claim with PayPal. The guy sent me back a different phone of the same model that was indeed quite broken. I appealed to PayPal and lost. I got screwed in this case, but frankly I'm not sure what PayPal/eBay is supposed to do about this sort of scam. Dude even swapped the sticker with the serial number from inside…

Out of curiosity, if the sticker was the same how did you know for certain that the broken phone was a different phone?

Mine had a small but distinctive scratch on the back. The sticker was also off-center and poorly applied. Though I did briefly question my sanity. I suppose I don't know for certain, though the phone was working when I mailed it.

The buyer's profile showed he was frequently buying and selling cell phones, both working and broken.

Re: Thinking of Selling on eBay using Paypal? Think Again

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post #123

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Sue Paypal. It's an obvious scam, and they are, for some strange reason, ruling in favor of the scammer. Sue them for your money, for the time you spent dealing with them. Check out small claims court limits in your state, and sue them for the maximum. I bet you will win with all the documentation you have.

No idea if you should sue or not, but surely in this case it would be the credit card company who didn't investigate the chargeback who is the culprit, Paypal is somewhat beholden to their investigation. By just approving any chargeback and not doing any investigations to appeals they are abusing the system

Unfortunately Paypal refused to provide the credit card company info in this case
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