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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by matheusmoreira »

testfrequency wrote: post #31

+1 point to China! In all seriousness, I can’t believe the AI firms are abiding by this peacefully. If I truly loved my company, and I felt we were on the bleeding edge of incredible, life changing products, why would I allow my company to be set up for failure by remaining somewhere that clearly wants control over the sovereignty. The US gov sees these AI companies as bartering power, not as innovation. Wouldn’t you…

> I can’t believe the AI firms are abiding by this peacefully.

They literally asked for this.

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Post by ElProlactin »

testfrequency wrote: post #31

+1 point to China! In all seriousness, I can’t believe the AI firms are abiding by this peacefully. If I truly loved my company, and I felt we were on the bleeding edge of incredible, life changing products, why would I allow my company to be set up for failure by remaining somewhere that clearly wants control over the sovereignty. The US gov sees these AI companies as bartering power, not as innovation. Wouldn’t you…

> +1 point to China!

Which, like the US, uses export controls when it finds them advantageous: https://nam.org/china-imposes-export-controls-on-u-s-mineral...

> In all seriousness, I can’t believe the AI firms are abiding by this peacefully. If I truly loved my company, and I felt we were on the bleeding edge of incredible, life changing products, why would I allow my company to be set up for failure by remaining somewhere that clearly wants control over my sovereignty.

So, locate in China, where every company of importance is essentially required in practice to maintain ties to the CCP?

I personally think the US has gone too far with its use of export controls and sanctions as a political tool, but it's foolish to believe that it's different anywhere else on the planet.

In China, it has even been reported that top AI talent is restricted from overseas travel.

https://www.thinkchina.sg/technology/china-tightens-control-...

Bottom line: if you're working on cutting-edge technology that is deemed to be of critical national security importance and has military or dual use implications, you're going to be a hostage no matter where you go.

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Post by watwut »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #34

Remember how China turned its tech industry into a smoking ruin - make making them all submit to political priorities: Ant Group: China halted Ant’s IPO and forced a restructuring Alibaba: China fined and politically disciplined Alibaba Didi: China punished Didi after its US listing by removing its apps, freezing users, forcing delisting Tutoring platforms: banned profit from core school-subject tutoring. Tencent gam…

China tech industry is smoking ruin? On what planet are you living?

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Post by testfrequency »

bilekas wrote: post #37
PunchyHamster wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was always the playbook > Is there a precedent for this before in a democratic country ? I'd argue US is not very democratic country given how many of what govt does goes against people's wishes. Same as UK

> I'd argue US is not very democratic country given how many of what govt does goes against people's wishes. Same as UK That could be argued but the core principle is freedom of commerce and private companies get a lot of runway. This seems completely counter to tha.

The UK is a lot more compassionate about people’s wishes, it’s not nearly as bureaucratic and polarizing “democracy” as the US. Laws in the UK are passed quickly, and feedback is always considered. Whether you agree or not on the regulation is another discussion.

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Post by piokoch »

One more wake up call for anyone outside USA, especially Europe. AI will be weaponized, on the battle ground too, but the bigger battle will be fought in the industry competition. Those who have access to state of the art models will have advantage over those who does not.

Hopefully open-weight models will catch up, hopefully we, as the people, engineers will find the way to maintain those open-weight models on pair with the closed ones.

I try to be optimistic, as we won some battles, against all odds, Linux is flourishing, open source solutions are mainstream.

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Post by 15155 »

bilekas wrote: post #33
digitaltrees wrote: post #2

Open source is looking great right now

It's looking good until you start to see the US gov forcing cloudflare to block hugging face and others.

Why do they need to "force Cloudflare" to do anything?

Why wouldn't they just tell Hugging Face that they need to abide export restrictions directly - they're an American company?

Doesn't sound dystopian enough without a second compelled entity?

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Post by margorczynski »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #22

"government needs to step in and regulate ai" "wait, not like that"

Anth/OpenAI simply wanted the government to pull the ladder after them and ban models from China.

Seems it blew in their faces and probably the new frontier models will be available only to a select few. Many people predicted this, only a naive person would believe that access to something with these capabilities would be decided by some dude in California.

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