Hey Claude, copy XYZ, make no mistakes. The meme keeps on memeing.
What a wonderful world we live in where we can blame machines and extremely dilluted processes for all things we might do wrong.
Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
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Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let’s not even talk about the feature. Copying the entire visual design itself with superficial tweaks is pretty brazen and, frankly, incredibly lazy.
Who cares if the consumer buys it and uses it? Information is worth nothing anymore, attention is, so if they manage to capture a larger audience somehow, they win.
> Information is worth nothing anymore
What do you do for a living? For most of us in the tech industry, information being worth something (because it takes creative and intellectual labor to produce) puts food on our tables.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who cares if the consumer buys it and uses it? Information is worth nothing anymore, attention is, so if they manage to capture a larger audience somehow, they win.
> Information is worth nothing anymore What do you do for a living? For most of us in the tech industry, information being worth something (because it takes creative and intellectual labor to produce) puts food on our tables.
LLMs produce about 95% of the code at my company and review about 70% of it for 3 years now. Our team has downsized from 40 to 8 people in this time. My creative labor is spent writing harnesses and wrappers. When there is enough of a data distribution on this, the LLMs will be able to do that as well.
I have saved up a buffer in funds and bonds because it's going to be over at some point when the company moves from explore to exploit.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#124What's with this response in the Twitter thread??: "This ain't what a C&D looks like. Implies you don't actually have a leg to stand on. Upload a copy of your official legal demand (from a lawyer) or I'll forever see your company as one who attempts to bully the competition in public" -- https://xcancel.com/jacobhartmannx/status/207012600834729596... Is this just trolling?!
Look at his other tweets, he seems to be a sociopathic extremist
Or a troll? I'm so confused.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#125Their response: > The team that made dataroom has stated that they did not use any of papermark’s code and that dataroom was made from scratch with inspiration from existing document sharing softwares, and that this post’s allegations of us stealing code are false. [...] The screenshots clearly show they copied whole pages verbatim, both design and texts. The founder, Nico Laqua, basically responding with "we didn't…
>they copied whole pages verbatim
Parts of pages. Look at the screenshots. The wording is different between the pages.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#126Their response: > The team that made dataroom has stated that they did not use any of papermark’s code and that dataroom was made from scratch with inspiration from existing document sharing softwares, and that this post’s allegations of us stealing code are false. [...] The screenshots clearly show they copied whole pages verbatim, both design and texts. The founder, Nico Laqua, basically responding with "we didn't…
> It might not be enough to get sued. That doesn't make it right.
Perhaps that’s enough for them. Legal gray area worked for Uber, AirBnB and many more.
As a consumer in not happy though, I don’t like incentivizing companies with such creative approach to law.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#127If we take what they're saying as fact and that they didn't copy and paste the code, but for all intents and purposes the LlM basically did reproduce the same code based on its crawling of the repo and not respecting the license. It would make a great civil case for the courts to decide.
Their defence seems to be "well we asked an LLM to reproduce your work, so 'WE' never copied your code". Smells bad to me.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let’s not even talk about the feature. Copying the entire visual design itself with superficial tweaks is pretty brazen and, frankly, incredibly lazy.
Who cares if the consumer buys it and uses it? Information is worth nothing anymore, attention is, so if they manage to capture a larger audience somehow, they win.
This laissez-faire logic is insane, but I think it is telling that a lot of folks here seem to have this mindset and makes me empathize with increasingly nihilistic people.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#129I like the contradiction on the copycat page:
> This action cannot be undone
> Freezing is reversible from this page
I assume being irreversible is an essential part of the freezing feature.
Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark
#130From what I can tell, his argument seems to be that
1. no code was manually copied by a developer, and
2. all software in the same space copies off of each other
But the big giveaway here is the exact same layout/copywriting on both products. Telling an LLM "write this product and build a 1:1 clone" is still copying by all sensible definitions. The fact that he argues nothing was copied is ridiculous.