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Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

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Re: Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

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Apple is very late to the AI party. By the time M7 is shipped, Nvidia will announce 6090 and people will be buying used (3|4|5)090 GPUs to run local models at much better performance than heat throttled M7.

I would prefer a Studio if it does a decent enough job even if throttles a bit under load, way less power usage and noise than those GPUs plus the PC you need to put those in.

Yeah but you could heat your whole house!

Re: Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

#83

Apple is actually interesting. They are one of the few companies with a chip / PC play with real power AND basically no play I'm the hyperscalar market. That means they're actually incentivized at least short term, to benefit PCs becoming strong enough to do local LLMs. Which makes this play make even more sense. Though, I've been saying for a while that the local AI inflectiom point is the death knell for these fron…

Indeed. If Apple makes it feasible to run models like GLM 5.2 at home, I will become their customer.

Re: Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

#84

I was waiting for a MacBook Pro M6 Max and now I don’t know what to do, especially with the price increase I feel like I really screwed up not just getting an MBP M5 Max a month ago

Just buy now. DRAM prices are not coming down any time soon, and Apple may be forced to raise prices again.

Re: Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

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That would cost as much as a new car.

Don't worry, they'll just make cars more expensive

Come to think of it, modern cars have a lot of electronics such as touchscreens, cameras, and sensors. It wouldn’t surprise me if new car prices are not immune to what’s happening with RAM and storage prices.

Re: Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

#86

Well this kind of sucks. I've been waiting for the M6 MBPs because they're rumored (strong rumors, though) to finally remove the notch that has been a historic self-own. But it sounds like I might as well wait longer for the M7 lineup. Or maybe get a Framework Pro instead.

The notch does not matter at all, you will forget it's there.

Basically, you are saying "There are 4 lights"

Re: Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

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The notch does not matter at all, you will forget it's there.

I was surprised to even see it mentioned after all these years, literally haven’t thought about it a single time since I got my first MBP that had it.

It’s a complete embarrassment. They added it for aesthetic alignment with the iPhone 13. And then the 14 removed the notch soon after. They’ve kept it for years since then. It has no functional purpose. It’s not there for face ID or because they couldn’t figure out how to do a hole punch camera.

Re: Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

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The article says base M7 memory bandwidth is targeted at 240GB/s. M1 had 70 GB/s, M1 Pro: 200, M1 Max 400, M1 Ultra 800. Modern RTX 6000: ~1,600 or so. If we get a 1,200-1,500 GB/s bandwidth M7 variant in late 2027 with 512GB of RAM, that will be a very interesting chip. Tracking LLM size and performance improvements, I can imagine that being a sort of inflection point for local inference. I wonder what the power bud…

Problem is affording the ram…

Well yes. But similar to the Apple TSMC relationship, could Apple step in with large orders to established RAM makers such that the RAM makers can invest with stability?

Re: Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

#89

Apple is actually interesting. They are one of the few companies with a chip / PC play with real power AND basically no play I'm the hyperscalar market. That means they're actually incentivized at least short term, to benefit PCs becoming strong enough to do local LLMs. Which makes this play make even more sense. Though, I've been saying for a while that the local AI inflectiom point is the death knell for these fron…

Indeed. If Apple makes it feasible to run models like GLM 5.2 at home, I will become their customer.

you're not a customer of any of their products at all already? not a single apple device in your household?

Re: Apple to skip high-end M6 Mac chips in favor of AI-focused M7 line

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. If Apple makes it feasible to run models like GLM 5.2 at home, I will become their customer.

you're not a customer of any of their products at all already? not a single apple device in your household?

Some folks like to have a computing environment free of proprietary influences and extremely strong vendor lock-in. I cannot claim to posses any apple devices.
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