Not at all related but still reminds me a bit of FM synthesis
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#32When I first learned about computer science at the age of 11 or so (and in 1982 or so) the first page of the text book put digital and analogue computers on what seemed to be an equal footing. And then proceeded to ignore the latter for the rest of the book. Apart from a few notable exceptions ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Machine ) I've often wondered about analogue computing.
Noise and component imprecision has always limited analog computing.
And a general lack of reconfigurability to solve general problems. There’s been interest in analog neural networks for a long time.
Those problems you mention are important in music synthesis where people could live with limited reconfigurability but reliability is at a premium: synth players in early touring bands (e.g. Yes) had to be electronics technicians and instruments have to survive being packed in boxes and transported everywhere. The Yamaha DX-7 made FM synthesis mainstream because digital FM synthesis was absolutely reliable.
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#34It’s not clear to me how this would ever be practical since it seems dependent on n^2 scaling. You’ve got to wonder when you have an image generation demo why would you possibly have 64 x 64 pixel output as your demo? If I’m understanding this properly to generate a 4K image, you need like 5 trillion point to point connections on the chip. Even if power use from the oscillators is zero that’s going to be an issue.
Yes I too am perplexed. I'm into audio synthesis so I feel I have somewhat better-than-average knowledge of oscillators, from the component or elementary mathematical level (depending on whether they're analog or digital) to complex interactions for fun and profit (frequency, phase, ring modulation). These are cool results but I was disappointed not to find any discussion of where oscillator array technology stands t…
I bet 5 million coupled oscillators, all slightly detuned, would sound freakin' amazing.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Noise and component imprecision has always limited analog computing.
And a general lack of reconfigurability to solve general problems. There’s been interest in analog neural networks for a long time. Those problems you mention are important in music synthesis where people could live with limited reconfigurability but reliability is at a premium: synth players in early touring bands (e.g. Yes) had to be electronics technicians and instruments have to survive being packed in boxes and…
Analog synths are a lot more reliable these days though.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes I too am perplexed. I'm into audio synthesis so I feel I have somewhat better-than-average knowledge of oscillators, from the component or elementary mathematical level (depending on whether they're analog or digital) to complex interactions for fun and profit (frequency, phase, ring modulation). These are cool results but I was disappointed not to find any discussion of where oscillator array technology stands t…
I bet 5 million coupled oscillators, all slightly detuned, would sound freakin' amazing.
Here's 1000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3wk9WWTfNs&t=338s
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#37finally, a way to generate images that's slower AND worse. progress.
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#38When I first learned about computer science at the age of 11 or so (and in 1982 or so) the first page of the text book put digital and analogue computers on what seemed to be an equal footing. And then proceeded to ignore the latter for the rest of the book. Apart from a few notable exceptions ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Machine ) I've often wondered about analogue computing.
Quantum annealers (D-Wave machines) are basically analogue computers, with Josephson junctions as the primary component as opposed to oscillators. I wonder if they could render these images, too?
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#39I love this ! Used to work at Rain AI on training neural networks in unconventional hardware - people often that computers don't necessarily have to be electronic digital - there is a whole domain dedicated to creating machines that can apply certain mathematical operations faster or more efficiently than their electronic counter parts. I created this site to try create a classification of that space:
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#40When I first learned about computer science at the age of 11 or so (and in 1982 or so) the first page of the text book put digital and analogue computers on what seemed to be an equal footing. And then proceeded to ignore the latter for the rest of the book. Apart from a few notable exceptions ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Machine ) I've often wondered about analogue computing.
Take a look at extropic. AFAICT it's a form of analog computer.