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One bad incident out of millions doesn't set a precedent.
One could say the same thing about OP's post. Yet, it isn't unique by a long shot. I've also given up on selling via CL because of the scammers. Now I donate to the local Goodwill or other charity (women's shelters want cellphones, for example), and take the tax write-off.
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Of course. If you look their website now and their SEC filings, it is clear that eBay is not any more "garage sales on internet with auctions". It is more like discount store. Are there any of YC companies building "garage sales on internet"?
just wondering how would you expect or how do other companies currently avoid fraud. The costs associated or added with constantly investigating fraud would almost seem like a deterrent in making a system useful.
This seems like a credit card/bank problem, it's not unique to paypal. I was thinking about upgrading my phone and ebaying the old one. After reading this, I'm thinking maybe I'll go the craigslist route, or one of the online trade-in deals. Does gazelle have this same issue? I'm not sure if Gazelle the company buys the product and sells it, or if they just connect me with a buyer like ebay does.
I bought a few car parts from a shop who ended up shipping me only half my order. I contacted them, they re-sent me the same half a second time (so I had 2 of the same item, but no 2nd part). Contacted them again. Received the same item a third time and was fed up at this point. I had paid duties on each item to receive the package to only find I had more worthless parts and contacted PayPal for a dispute.
Turns out the only proof the seller had to provide was proof that there was a package shipped. No proof of contents or receipt or anything.
Learned a valuable lesson that day.
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If you really want the money back, sue the guy. File a miscellaneous action in Ohio and then use subpoenas to acquire his real address/billing info. Contact the state AG and local federal AG's as well, just for kicks. Note that if you go to file a small claims action, you will actually have to be present in Ohio. They require in-personam jurisdiction. (You do have the option of filing in local federal district court…
Sue Paypal. It's an obvious scam, and they are, for some strange reason, ruling in favor of the scammer. Sue them for your money, for the time you spent dealing with them. Check out small claims court limits in your state, and sue them for the maximum. I bet you will win with all the documentation you have.
Does ebay policy allow this? I thought the seller had to sell to the winning bidder, regardless of buyer's feedback, etc.
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My mind read it as "stickied".
Correct. We built it to integrate with vBulletin forums: https://partners.styckyd.com Our brand name is taken from "stickying" a post on a forum.
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Actually, you can (John Doe lawsuits). Besides that, most of these scams are not that sophisticated as you see in spy movies. You subpoena a few folks, and you get the identity. It usually turns out to be a 16 year old, but you still get it.
Serving a subpoena to "General Delivery" is problematic at best.
Again, it's just not this complicated. It's expensive and time consuming, but rarely complicated.
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If you really want the money back, sue the guy. File a miscellaneous action in Ohio and then use subpoenas to acquire his real address/billing info. Contact the state AG and local federal AG's as well, just for kicks. Note that if you go to file a small claims action, you will actually have to be present in Ohio. They require in-personam jurisdiction. (You do have the option of filing in local federal district court…
Sue Paypal. It's an obvious scam, and they are, for some strange reason, ruling in favor of the scammer. Sue them for your money, for the time you spent dealing with them. Check out small claims court limits in your state, and sue them for the maximum. I bet you will win with all the documentation you have.
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just wondering how would you expect or how do other companies currently avoid fraud. The costs associated or added with constantly investigating fraud would almost seem like a deterrent in making a system useful.
Chargebacks are a part of doing business any time you accept credit cards, whether paypal is your merchant provider or not. The problem here is Visa/MC/Amex etc. Since you almost have to accept credit card payments these days, you're stuck with their terms. Since the banks all provide credit through these card providers, there's very little competition. There are numerous ways to virtually eliminate CC fraud but the…
But the OP is NOT the merchant... PayPal is. I do not think that the fundamental problem in this case is the credit card system. (Although there certainly are OTHER problems with the credit card payment system that make it tempting to disrupt - but nearly impossible to disrupt because of entrenched powerful interests.)