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Meta pauses AI training program tracking employee keystrokes after internal leak

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Re: Meta pauses AI training program tracking employee keystrokes after internal leak

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Does anyone, ever, have any faith in the integrity or competence of executives, these days? Because it seems to me that most people would outright prefer them to burn but are powerless against the increasing abuses and betrayals of employees.

20% of the people will always just agree with the guy with the microphone.

seems to me that 20% of people agreeing, and the remaining 80% staying silent (or 79% with 1% vocal), leads to the abuse cycle continuing.

The silent majority creates a false feeling of large consensus and inability to know the reality.

Re: Meta pauses AI training program tracking employee keystrokes after internal leak

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"The incident was classified as a SEV 2 on a scale of 0 to 5, with 0 being the most severe." Only 2?

Hmm, also saying the scale is 0 to 5 is... something. In my experience, which was a while ago, no one cares about SEV 3, and I only ever saw SEV 4 used as a placeholder or TODO list. Never came across a SEV 5 in the world. It's really "SEV 2 on a scale of 0 to 3".

Re: Meta pauses AI training program tracking employee keystrokes after internal leak

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Facebook is widely thought to cause significant societal damage; anyone who thinks so, would probably consider employees of Meta to be the ones lacking empathy.

So Facebook products are definitely not good for humans to use, sort of like cane sugar is not good for humans to use, but I wonder if you also think this about, I dunno, banks? They do vastly more predatory stuff with much bigger impacts. Nobody’s Facebook usage is affecting how much housing costs, for example. But for some reason there seems to be more outrage at social media companies. Odd!

I’m not sure what this style of rhetoric is called but Matt Bors popularized it in his comic “Mister Gotcha”.

And we can be against banks being predatory and Meta. Coincidentally on a thread about Meta the topic is more about them than banks.

Re: Meta pauses AI training program tracking employee keystrokes after internal leak

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Why aren't they deserving of sympathy? Crazy take and a massive lack of empathy.

Because they know what they are signing up for? I’ve only interviewed at Meta for practice even though I could earn ~250k a year more working there.

The issue I have is you are strawmanning every Meta employee into an amorphous form that knowingly works at Meta only for the money that trades away their rights to a safe work environment without any humanity to it. Thats not true, every individual there is unique with their own situation. Trying to lump thousands of people like that is really reductive.

Re: Meta pauses AI training program tracking employee keystrokes after internal leak

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Why aren't they deserving of sympathy? Crazy take and a massive lack of empathy.

Facebook is widely thought to cause significant societal damage; anyone who thinks so, would probably consider employees of Meta to be the ones lacking empathy.

I believe Meta and most social medias cause significant societal damage. I also think that humans as a baseline are deserving of sympathy. Lets take the straw man Meta employee who causes damage and lacks empathy. Personally I'd think it's sad that that employee doesn't experience the emotion of empathy. I wonder how that impacts their personal life, why don't they experience that empathy?

I don't think it's a good idea to use someone else's perceived lack of empathy as an excuse to not be sympathetic.

Re: Meta pauses AI training program tracking employee keystrokes after internal leak

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Because they know what they are signing up for? I’ve only interviewed at Meta for practice even though I could earn ~250k a year more working there.

The issue I have is you are strawmanning every Meta employee into an amorphous form that knowingly works at Meta only for the money that trades away their rights to a safe work environment without any humanity to it. Thats not true, every individual there is unique with their own situation. Trying to lump thousands of people like that is really reductive.

This is a silly argument. They’re smart / diligent enough to spend months studying to pass their interviews, but not smart enough to spend 5 minutes researching Glassdoor / Blind?
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