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Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by simplyluke »

bluescrn wrote: post #608
sajithdilshan wrote: post #604

This is just pure greed. There is a memory chips shortage and it’s partly due to high demand, but at the same time the manufacturers trying to squeeze as much profit they can while the demand last without investing on increasing the manufacturing capacity. Apple already have such high profit margins and I’m pretty sure the next iPhones would be priced 100-200$ extra

Prices are never going down, even if the shortage eases. The era of cheap high-end computing is likely over. And it'll be used to pressure people into switching to thin clients and ever-more subscriptions High-end desktops were already a niche market, with many home users just using phones+tablets as their main devices. The entire games industry is already in a big crash too, and with consoles approaching $1k for 6yr…

Prices have gone down for the entire history of computing reliably with the past year being an extremely notable deviation from that trend line.

I'm pretty sure prices are going down. Maybe not complete builds in nominal dollars, but $/gb for things like RAM and SSDs will be lower in 5 years than it is today almost certainly.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by TrackerFF »

jacobgold wrote: post #274

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

We paid like $3500 in 1995 money for a PC which was completely outdated after 4 years. The early to mid 90s were exciting times, but damn some of the machines were expensive and didn't last long.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by mvdtnz »

bluescrn wrote: post #608
sajithdilshan wrote: post #604

This is just pure greed. There is a memory chips shortage and it’s partly due to high demand, but at the same time the manufacturers trying to squeeze as much profit they can while the demand last without investing on increasing the manufacturing capacity. Apple already have such high profit margins and I’m pretty sure the next iPhones would be priced 100-200$ extra

Prices are never going down, even if the shortage eases. The era of cheap high-end computing is likely over. And it'll be used to pressure people into switching to thin clients and ever-more subscriptions High-end desktops were already a niche market, with many home users just using phones+tablets as their main devices. The entire games industry is already in a big crash too, and with consoles approaching $1k for 6yr…

> Prices are never going down, even if the shortage eases.

Why would this be the case? I don't see a fundamental market failure.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by dbbk »

GeekyBear wrote: post #553
primaprashant wrote: post #465

These are the price changes mentioned in the article: Macs MacBook Neo: $699 (up from $599) 13-inch MacBook Air: $1,299 (up from $1,099) 15-inch MacBook Air: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M5 MacBook Pro: $1,999 (up from $1,699) M5 Pro MacBook Pro: $2,499 (up from $2,199) M5 Max MacBook Pro: $4,099 (up from $3,599) iMac: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M4 Max Mac Studio: $2,499 (up from $1,999) M3 Ultra Mac Studio: $5,299 (up from…

To be fair, Microsoft announced their third XBox price hike today. > The price of XBOX consoles will increase by US$100 for 512 GB models and US$150 for 1 TB models. We will also be sunsetting our 2 TB model. https://kotaku.com/xbox-price-increase-2026-tariffs-buy-now-... This is in addition to the other two recent price hikes.

This isn't immediate though, it's from August

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Post by StilesCrisis »

jliptzin wrote: post #535
j1elo wrote: post #413

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the absurd memory prices might have some positive outcome, it will be consumers demanding that all their basic pack of apps are able to run on 16 and even 8 GB of RAM, by means of avoiding those that hog their machines. And consequently (hopefully), developers and their managers being incentivized by market forces to have a modicum of care for performance and not wasting bytes. Dreaming is free... All Electron dev…

RAM prices won’t stay like this forever. If demand keeps up, suppliers will just start producing more.

They're already producing as much as possible.

Building a modern chip fab takes many years, and no one seems ready to take the plunge yet. The existing suppliers are happy to just keep raising prices instead.

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Post by malshe »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #222
dwa3592 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until China floods the market with their memory which is starting

I'm seeing it with NAND. Look at the AWS Prime ssds available, and it's a massive list of strange drives you've never heard of, with very few reviews available, almost all using YMTC. The prices aren't fantastic, but given that five sixths of the drive market is straight up gone, I think we need to start reviewing and hoping for the best here, fast. I really hope endurance is indeed as rated, that we aren't about to…

> Look at the AWS Prime ssds available

Where?

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by nocoiner »

base698 wrote: post #414
lastofthemojito wrote: post #238

This feels like the car market during COVID. In December Best Buy had a $1999 configuration of the M5 MacBook Pro on sale for $1749 and I scooped one up. Now that model is $2199. I suspect I could sell the computer I've been using for 6 months at a profit, which is just bizarre. But then of course it would cost a lot if I wanted to replace it.

I was going to upgrade my M3 Max to an M5 Max with more RAM. The machine I priced out was $5400 yesterday and costs $7500 today.

Hello, fellow traveler on this particular boat.

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Post by rescbr »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #222
dwa3592 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until China floods the market with their memory which is starting

I'm seeing it with NAND. Look at the AWS Prime ssds available, and it's a massive list of strange drives you've never heard of, with very few reviews available, almost all using YMTC. The prices aren't fantastic, but given that five sixths of the drive market is straight up gone, I think we need to start reviewing and hoping for the best here, fast. I really hope endurance is indeed as rated, that we aren't about to…

The problem with these drives is that you can't ensure the grade of the NAND chips. They could be A+ grade with great endurance but they could also be bottom of the barrel.

I had two KingSpec SSDs sourced from AliExpress that failed too soon: one used YMTC and the other used Intel chips. Both failed within 1 to 2 years.

I have another one which is 5 years old by now.

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Post by buybackoff »

I had plans to buy two Airs, was not sure if I needed 13 or 15, 24 or 32, which was better for my wife and what's the best strategy to buy one for her first and then understand my needs test-driving it. Maybe I actually needed Pro. Lot's of procrastination as none of us had a real need for an upgrade. It's all in the past tense now. I've just bought a 16GB model with 1TB on Amazon at 480 EUR cheaper that the new price, and it seems cheaper than the official old price. I will forget about MacBooks until a real need comes, or maybe good ARM laptops happen sooner. It's funny that if they did not have the dichotomy between 13 and 15, I would have thought less and bought M4 as soon as it was out with the support for 2 external displays + built-in.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by cromka »

simonw wrote: post #276
ajitid wrote: post #226

Nano texture display option also got a price increase. Thankfully, AppleCare+ didn't.

Hard to make a case that's related to increased RAM or SSD component prices.

Exactly. It's the "why not" which makes you wonder whether they actually need to bump prices at all and their contracts are still in place...
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