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Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

#81

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But they might keep extending it...

They have to update the IOT version anyway, so might as well get some money off of regular users anyway by "extending" it.

except they are extending it now for free

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

#82
post #50

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Can’t wait till Fable 6 can just decompile and reimplement old software like that.

Great for the americans. What are the rest of us going to do?

Maybe get your governments and citizens to innovate and create their own instead of relying so heavily on other countries. I thought that's the direction other countries were trying to go.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

#83
post #50

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Can’t wait till Fable 6 can just decompile and reimplement old software like that.

Great for the americans. What are the rest of us going to do?

Try Opus 4.8? It's just a language translation task. LLMs should be good at it.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

#84

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To anyone reading this: please don't use ISOs downloaded from not-official sources. Use an autounattend.xml, the mass graves, and a WinGet JSON to customise an online image. [1]: https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/ [2]: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/package-manager/wi...

Did you even read what I wrote?

I did. You said:

> to get a NEW ISO which you then install

This is not good.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

#85
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It is, and if you can switch, it’s highly recommended. I have some pretty bespoke old RS-232 Windows software that was an absolute disaster to get working under Debian with Wine a few years back, so I (and others) might still need to keep a copy of Windows around.

Might want to try again, Wine progressed a lot in the past couple years.

It works well, though its messages could use some TLC:

    libEGL warning: pci id for fd 31: 10de:1ff0, driver (null)

    pci id for fd 33: 10de:1ff0, driver (null)
    pci id for fd 34: 10de:1ff0, driver (null)
    libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
    libEGL warning: pci id for fd 31: 10de:1ff0, driver (null)

    pci id for fd 33: 10de:1ff0, driver (null)
    pci id for fd 34: 10de:1ff0, driver (null)
    libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
    libEGL warning: pci id for fd 31: 10de:1ff0, driver (null)

    0124:fixme:nls:RtlGetThreadPreferredUILanguages 00000034, 0313F66C, 0313F6DC 0313F674
    0124:fixme:nls:get_dummy_preferred_ui_language (0x34 0x1009 0313F66C 0313F6DC 0313F674) returning a dummy value (current locale)
    0124:fixme:heap:RtlSetHeapInformation HEAP_INFORMATION_CLASS 1 not implemented!
    0124:fixme:nls:RtlGetThreadPreferredUILanguages 00000034, 0313F9D4, 0313FA44 0313F9DC
    0124:fixme:nls:get_dummy_preferred_ui_language (0x34 0x1009 0313F9D4 0313FA44 0313F9DC) returning a dummy value (current locale)
    0124:fixme:shell:InitNetworkAddressControl stub
    0124:fixme:richedit:editor_handle_message EM_GETLANGOPTIONS: stub
    0124:fixme:richedit:editor_handle_message EM_SETLANGOPTIONS: stub
    0124:fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySystemInformation info_class SYSTEM_PERFORMANCE_INFORMATION
    0124:fixme:win:RegisterTouchWindow hwnd 000100E0, flags 0 stub!
    0124:fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (7853A300) stub
    0124:fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (7B4F6BE4) stub
    0124:fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (79410E54) stub

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

#86

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Linux is free and less wasteful on resources on the other hand.

Out of interest, what value do you think that a comment like that has, in a forum such as this? You're not likely to be informing people with information they're not already abundantly aware of. Whereas the person you're responding to is adding value, for me at least. I am in what might be an edge-case position where I need to run software specific to Windows and, much more importantly run hardware that uses drivers…

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Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

#88

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To anyone reading this: please don't use ISOs downloaded from not-official sources. Use an autounattend.xml, the mass graves, and a WinGet JSON to customise an online image. [1]: https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/ [2]: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/package-manager/wi...

Do be aware that an autounattend.xml can cause Windows setup to execute arbitrary code. Their provenance matters too. It's relatively easy to encode scripts (or even binaries) into the XML to run during or after Windows setup. You can eyeball them, for sure, but I bet most people don't.

Indeed. I mention this in light of the high-profile supply-chain attacks recently across diverse platforms (Arch AUR, Shai-Hulud, etc). Any online tool that purports to modify an entire install medium should be heavily and continually scrutinised. I'm not saying the developer can't be trusted, but the infrastructure and people in general can't.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

#89
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Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...

Well, not just anyone can buy a license for it. You need some sort of enterprise volume license agreement, as far as I can tell.

If you're considering switching to Win 10 IoT you're probably not in the "people who pay for Windows" category.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

#90

"Quietly" seem to be the most popular headline word this year.

"Quietly," like in "has quietly become the biggest/best X" is silly and everywhere, but "quietly" in this sense of "they didn't announce it and people just happened to notice the change" is fine and descriptive I would say.
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