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Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by AlexandrB »

choilive wrote: post #471
ksec wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I said MacBook Neo was wrongly priced since the beginning. I don't even remember how many sticks I got from it. >Just yesterday I saw people saying that Apple wouldn't increase prices until the next refresh. That was from Gruber, a person who claimed USB-C was invented by Apple, AirPod was sold at a loss. Generally speaking understanding of Margins, Supply Chain, Manufacturing and Hardware Business manufacturing…

Apple was on the USB Implementers Forum that designed USB-C so.. I would say they could definitely be credited as a co-inventor of USB-C, they also introduced one of the first devices that used USB-C.

And then they went too far and introduced laptops that only used USB-C before finally setting at a (so far) happy medium.

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Post by AbsurdCensor »

snootypoot wrote: post #321
jacobgold wrote: post #274

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

its worth noting that you were much less restricted with this 6k computer in 1996. today we are paying ever more for walled gardens that will eventually become nothing more than a portal to cloud services. we are not returning to a previous position, we are moving to a world where everything will be a thin client.

Were you? That $6k Apple in 1996 was just as 'walled garden' as it is now.

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Post by amlib »

AIorNot wrote: post #347
jacobgold wrote: post #274

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

Well Conversely, in 1996 you, your spouse, your kids, didnt need a pc to live your lives - having a pc or mac was something of a luxury Today smartphones, laptops and the internet are the base currency of the digital world - theres a reason Apple is so wealthy

And if you spent all that money on a single computer there was the expectation of sharing it with the whole family.

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Post by Barrin92 »

greenleafone7 wrote: post #327
jacobgold wrote: post #274

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

I agree. But also back then you could buy a house and support a family with one salary as a trash truck driver. Today we spend years investing in masters and PhD-s to still live with roommates and consider buying food a luxury. Especially after the COVID hikes. So even though chasing trends and always 'needing to buy' whatever new model Apple pumps out is idiotic, let's also not shill for big corporations.

>But also back then you could buy a house and support a family with one salary as a trash truck driver

you still can. Truck drivers, electricians and a lot of vocational work pays good salaries. The people who are broke with a masters degree chose a degree in something that doesn't pay. Nurses with a masters earn solid six figures. 90% of the time when I met someone with a PhD who couldn't pay rent it's a downward mobile middle class kid who thought that learning a trade was beneath them

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Post by RulerOf »

base698 wrote: post #414
lastofthemojito wrote: post #238

This feels like the car market during COVID. In December Best Buy had a $1999 configuration of the M5 MacBook Pro on sale for $1749 and I scooped one up. Now that model is $2199. I suspect I could sell the computer I've been using for 6 months at a profit, which is just bizarre. But then of course it would cost a lot if I wanted to replace it.

I was going to upgrade my M3 Max to an M5 Max with more RAM. The machine I priced out was $5400 yesterday and costs $7500 today.

I was looking at roughly the same, m5 max, 128G with 4T. It was ~$6000 out the door.

The same config on their site is now $8000 before taxes and AppleCare.

A couple weeks' notice would've been nice.

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Post by AbsurdCensor »

stouset wrote: post #507
ksec wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I said MacBook Neo was wrongly priced since the beginning. I don't even remember how many sticks I got from it. >Just yesterday I saw people saying that Apple wouldn't increase prices until the next refresh. That was from Gruber, a person who claimed USB-C was invented by Apple, AirPod was sold at a loss. Generally speaking understanding of Margins, Supply Chain, Manufacturing and Hardware Business manufacturing…

> And I said MacBook Neo was wrongly priced since the beginning Given that the price change is broadly in line with the rest of the lineup, were all of those products mispriced since the beginning too? Or is it possible you’re simply cherry picking the one thing you want to be right about while ignoring the broader context of memory prices going up?

Memory prices are certainly going up, but Apple already makes a 40% profit margin on their products. That $1 trillion+ bank account still gotta go up no matter what right?

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Post by eloisant »

mysterydip wrote: post #304
jacobgold wrote: post #274

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

The computing power available today is such a double-edged sword. We can do so much more so much faster, but then we (including myself in this) waste so many cycles on abstractions and frameworks and layers of libraries to make our development jobs easier.

Also it's no longer a toy for hobbyist but a necessary tool to participate in society

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Post by kube-system »

copperx wrote: post #464
ksec wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I said MacBook Neo was wrongly priced since the beginning. I don't even remember how many sticks I got from it. >Just yesterday I saw people saying that Apple wouldn't increase prices until the next refresh. That was from Gruber, a person who claimed USB-C was invented by Apple, AirPod was sold at a loss. Generally speaking understanding of Margins, Supply Chain, Manufacturing and Hardware Business manufacturing…

> And I said MacBook Neo was wrongly priced since the beginning. I don't even remember how many sticks I got from it. I thought they were soldered to the motherboard?

They mean stick as in criticism.

And no, the memory in the Neo is not soldered to the motherboard, it is the upper part of the SoC sandwich package.

https://3dfabric.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/technolog...

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Post by z2 »

seviu wrote: post #481
slantedview wrote: post #475

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Looking at a few retailers, it seems like prices haven't increased yet. Maybe in a few days?

Impulse bought a Pro with 48Gb ram on a retailer with old prices Was waiting for the next generation but I think I will sit it out

Same here, reserved a 48GB M5 Pro shortly after seeing the news, and now I see the same retailer raised the price by over $1000. If they honor the sale, then this will be the most short term value I've gotten out of an HN submission ever.

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Post by frollogaston »

sneak wrote: post #325
avgDev wrote: post #214

Personal computing is in shambles right now. It has been for a bit. It was hard to buy video cards for a while, now other components are affected too.

This is ridiculous. A used M1 MBAir is the best personal computing value ever offered in the history of the world.

Yep, replaced my old Mac Pro with an M1 Mac mini that's actually faster. MacBook Neo is probably faster and nicer for most people's uses than what they already have, except of course video games.
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