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An entire Herculaneum scroll has been read for the first time

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Re: An entire Herculaneum scroll has been read for the first time

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The person who wrote this was was closer in time to the technology that was able to unwind and read burned fragments of their text, than the technology that build the pyramids. pretty wild to think about.

>technology that build the pyramids You mean ropes and carts?

The stones were cut with enormous precision, at least relative to what we know about the available cutting tools. You cannot still stick a knife between a lot of these stones. Maybe we will learn more about that.

Re: An entire Herculaneum scroll has been read for the first time

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post #7

I'm really hoping that the library contains some lost older Greek works. But its going to be awesome what ever we find.

I'm hoping for a complete(ish) Heraclitus. Also Eratosthenes, whose methods have been described but we don't have the original work where we calculated the circumference of the Earth. Also Hipparchus and Thales.

My pick would easily be the missing books of ab urbe condita by Livy, so much early Roman history that would be wonderfully filled out for us

Re: An entire Herculaneum scroll has been read for the first time

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post #27

Every time you feel depressed by the state of tech, and how so many intelligent people seem to work on forcing ever more ads down people's throats (a common trope around these parts), remember that projects like this do exist too! There are lots of very smart folks working on incredible things, they just aren't as loud.

This isnt the only incredible thing though, AI is being used to make discoveries in the medial field, and even to prevent sepsis related deaths, cutting down on them by detecting sepsis sooner. There was another that discovered the gene for Alzheimers is what activates it not just a sign of it.

There is a large overlap in what we are doing with the medical field as well. A lot of the segmentation methodology and technology we use and adapt originally came out of the medical field for doing things like brain imaging.

Re: An entire Herculaneum scroll has been read for the first time

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When I read translations like these, I always wonder if the tone is translated. Did the writer mean to convey a very formal “to the utmost”, or was it a more casual “to the max”. How much of the translators bias makes these seem like academic papers instead of social media posts.

After sticking it into CharGPT I can tell you it's neither. The word upmost is coming from is a form of the compound verb ἐκπονέω.

* ἐκ- = “out,” “thoroughly,” “to the end”

* πονέω = “to labor,” “to toil,” “to work hard”

Re: An entire Herculaneum scroll has been read for the first time

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the wildest, most exciting but plausible things that might be discovered in these documents?

Here's a list. The scrolls are from a library that burned in 79 AD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lost_literary_works

Woah there was a lost Homer epic comedy about a bumbling fool named Margites?

Re: An entire Herculaneum scroll has been read for the first time

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the wildest, most exciting but plausible things that might be discovered in these documents?

I am not a papyrologist or a classicist, rather I'm a computer scientist, so my expertise is unfortunately not in _what_ the scrolls say, rather how we get there. That being said I think and hope that there will be a trove of things that has no known provenance at all, completely lost works that elude the public memory.

Well what were your first thoughts when you decoded the script, besides the obvious Eureka, after making some sense of the texts?
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