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Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

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Post by upmostly »

bckr wrote: post #58
upmostly wrote: post #10

I suggest you change the demo. 1. Boys see girl 2. Boys fight over girl Creator could have chosen literally anything else to represent their product but instead went with an animation of boy emojis fighting over a girl emoji.

Where I made up my mind is during “dance party” where the boys have faces and the girl has a dancing woman for a head. Overall the idea is creative, but also not at all what I hoped. Was hoping for diagrams of actors in the systems sense.

If you thought that was bad, whatever you do, do NOT click the play button for the 5th step-by-step example: Expressions & Limbs.

I've never, EVER, in 18 years of being in this business, seen a software product demo of an emoji doing THAT before...

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

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Post by bckr »

upmostly wrote: post #61
bckr wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where I made up my mind is during “dance party” where the boys have faces and the girl has a dancing woman for a head. Overall the idea is creative, but also not at all what I hoped. Was hoping for diagrams of actors in the systems sense.

If you thought that was bad, whatever you do, do NOT click the play button for the 5th step-by-step example: Expressions & Limbs. I've never, EVER, in 18 years of being in this business, seen a software product demo of an emoji doing THAT before...

Wow. That sure is something.

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

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Post by libria »

9dev wrote: post #55
libria wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Folks, we're now 5 levels deep on this thread and I still haven't heard it spelled out what's wrong. I see "it's obvious" "cringey" and allcaps being used. Being able to vocalize specific problems and having the courage to clearly state it is a life skill. Please be specific about the problem and why. Bonus points for replacement suggestions. The boys-fight-for-girl is a very typical movie trope and this is a scene-b…

Well, here goes. The "story" told shows a woman as something men possess ("Backoff! She's mine!".) She even asks "do I get a say?" (hah, as if!) and is ignored, of course. If two men want to possess the same woman, they get into a physical fight, where the winner gets to own the woman. Oh, plot twist! She "decides" for the nice guy (lucky her, getting a man!) Do you seriously think this is a story still worth telling…

+1 This is a good if verbose response and the points and questions will be easy for the library author to address.

I'm going to take "you" here to mean the author instead of myself b/c I already found the example distasteful for reasons similar to yours.

> But since you asked specifically about someone spelling it out letter by letter for you:

You took time to do this and I appreciate it. I like to think you're teaching others how to respond clearer. I hope we can see this level of organized thought and direct challenge at the top level instead of reactionary slang and huffing.

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

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Post by 9dev »

mapcars wrote: post #43
9dev wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reproducing cringy sexist bullshit is a choice deserving of criticism.

Its the plague of western people thinking they have the moral high ground over other cultures and nations. In the place where I grew up this kind of scene would be considered normal. But you must be the one who dictates what is right and what is wrong, don't you?

> moral high ground over other cultures and nations.

I don't think I have that, really. But I have the high ground over people who objectify groups of other people, and if that is really central to your culture, then I am not accepting of it. Make of that what you will; you do not seem particularly open to criticism either.

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

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Post by dang »

swiftcoder wrote: post #16

This is just the weirdest subject choice for a demo

Edit: if hnlmorg's reply is accurate then I take this back!

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This is likely a cultural mismatch. I'd bet this demo was made by someone far away from the countries that most HN users are from.

From a few years ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098): that's a hidden source of conflict, because people frequently misinterpret a conventional comment coming from a different region for an extreme comment coming from nearby.

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

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Post by swiftcoder »

dang wrote: post #67
swiftcoder wrote: post #16

This is just the weirdest subject choice for a demo

Edit: if hnlmorg's reply is accurate then I take this back! --- This is likely a cultural mismatch. I'd bet this demo was made by someone far away from the countries that most HN users are from. From a few years ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098 ): that's a hidden source of conflict, because people frequently misinterpret a conventional comment coming from a different region for an extreme comment c…

I don't know, man - sexism is a pretty universal concept, and the author has lived/worked in the US, so its not like he's never watched one of those sexual harassment training videos...

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

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Post by praash »

dang wrote: post #67
swiftcoder wrote: post #16

This is just the weirdest subject choice for a demo

Edit: if hnlmorg's reply is accurate then I take this back! --- This is likely a cultural mismatch. I'd bet this demo was made by someone far away from the countries that most HN users are from. From a few years ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098 ): that's a hidden source of conflict, because people frequently misinterpret a conventional comment coming from a different region for an extreme comment c…

Dan, your HN comments are a collection of beautiful essays that is becoming a reference library for healthy discourse. I think it deserves a dedicated website.

Re: Markdy: Like Mermaid Diagrams, but for Motion

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Post by [deleted] »

dang wrote: post #67
swiftcoder wrote: post #16

This is just the weirdest subject choice for a demo

Edit: if hnlmorg's reply is accurate then I take this back! --- This is likely a cultural mismatch. I'd bet this demo was made by someone far away from the countries that most HN users are from. From a few years ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098 ): that's a hidden source of conflict, because people frequently misinterpret a conventional comment coming from a different region for an extreme comment c…

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