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Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by iririririr »

mysterydip wrote: post #304
jacobgold wrote: post #274

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

The computing power available today is such a double-edged sword. We can do so much more so much faster, but then we (including myself in this) waste so many cycles on abstractions and frameworks and layers of libraries to make our development jobs easier.

not even that. you spend most cycles on thing you 1. don't want, 2. don't benefit from, 3. don't even know about.

your phone doesn't even need mention (whatsapp request the full contact list from the OS every minute. nobody knows that. google play service usea your phone as a WiFi scanner etc)

your browser churn proof of work every site you visit. cloudflare now probably waste more power than btc (and they don't save your site from bota, only set the bar at bots-willing-to-pay-to-run-canvas-fingerprints or something)

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Post by qsxfthnkp2322 »

What a beautiful way for Tim Cook to end his career at Apple. supply chain genius can’t overcome market forces so they can keep a healthy profit margin.

Outsourcing was a great idea for making America, your home, lose. Oh well.

Ternus can’t come fast enough to revamp their corrupt management system and actually innovate again.

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Post by dwaite »

busymichael wrote: post #237

Still no 256GB or 512GB Studio models at any price. 96 is the max for any Studio configuration on apple.com right now.

I suspect this is because the next models are more imminent. Not imminent per se, but Apple doesn't want to be left holding the bag on most of a factory run of 512GB Studios.

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Post by HlessClaudesman »

robertoandred wrote: post #272
HlessClaudesman wrote: post #233

As an app developer, having to eat an ever increasing Mac hardware cost upfront may push people like me to just focus on Android.

Except you only need to eat that hardware cost once a decade.

You would think, but My 2019 MacBook can barely run an older xcode that doesn't emulate newer phones / tablets.

Some of these responses to my above post are a bit haughty. I'm just reporting from the trenches that the Apple tax is real, not everyone can afford to keep paying up, and a 20% cost increase is huge.

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Post by bubbi »

jacobgold wrote: post #274

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

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Post by FireBeyond »

rnxrx wrote: post #341
hodder wrote: post #232

Forgive me because I do not understand the supply chain for memory. With Micron et al effectively scalping their customers with an oligopoly on probably the lowest intellectual IP in the chain, does this not guarantee 10 years from now a) We are either overbuilt as hyperscalers cut capex, or b) hyperscalers vertically integrate. Or is it truly that hard to make memory? And if that is not true, perhaps it isn't really…

It *is* hard to make memory, especially HBM (...which is what the AI market wants, and is what the manufacturers are focusing on) and bringing on new capacity takes years . There's the additional wrinkle that the manufacturers we have left are the ones who survived periods where the market was glutted with oversupply in the wake of previous shortages. These decisions play out on the order of trillions of dollars and…

I mean lets not pretend that Apple hasn't done this for years. I had a cheesegrater Mac Pro 2019, but I had a choice with memory - I could upgrade from the base 32GB to 192GB one of two ways - pay Apple $3,000 for 160GB, or get the base 32GB model, and buy 192GB of the exact same sticks of memory (same manufacturer, timings, etc.) from OWC for $1,050. And I could sell the 32GB if I wanted.

Same with SSD. I could pay another $3,000 to Apple for 7TB of SSD (go from 1TB to 8), or I could get the 1TB, use that as a system drive, and then buy a 4xM.2 NVMe PCIe chassis, and put in 4x2TB Samsung 990 drives from Amazon and OWC for $1,100, and have 9TB of usable storage, and for bonus points, the chassis was about 400MB/s faster.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by pasc1878 »

paxys wrote: post #361
avgDev wrote: post #214

Personal computing is in shambles right now. It has been for a bit. It was hard to buy video cards for a while, now other components are affected too.

Personal computing was essentially dead when companies figured that renting hardware and software and charging monthly subscriptions was a lot more profitable.

But the latter mindset from companies was a main reason why personal computing took off.
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