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Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

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Post by dsjoerg »

khriss wrote: post #57

Interestingly, there were no consequences for the execs that made this 'mistake'. There seems to be almost unlimited cover for execs cargo culting on using AI as a pretext for layoffs. If it doesn't implode almost immediately, they get massive bonuses, if it blows up in their face, oh well they had the courage to 'take a bold strategic decision' In other words, they don't really have a plan, but they are happy playin…

> Interestingly, there were no consequences for the execs that made this 'mistake'

The article makes no such claim. What is your source? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Or, are you just making things up that you believe are likely, like an AI would?

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Post by LgWoodenBadger »

jeffbee wrote: post #99
SoftTalker wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Porsche 911 is pretty reliable, it's basically the same car they've made for over 50 years so they've got it figured out.

This seems like a totally crazy statement. The only common thing that a current and 50-year-old 911 share is that there are six holes in the engine block.

And the engine is behind the rear axle.

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Post by elzbardico »

khriss wrote: post #57

Interestingly, there were no consequences for the execs that made this 'mistake'. There seems to be almost unlimited cover for execs cargo culting on using AI as a pretext for layoffs. If it doesn't implode almost immediately, they get massive bonuses, if it blows up in their face, oh well they had the courage to 'take a bold strategic decision' In other words, they don't really have a plan, but they are happy playin…

Welcome to the Era of the Business Idiot. People who manage stuff without having even the remotest inkling of what the work is.

Their entire management skill involve the application of one of the following options:

1 - Fire People

2 - Spend Money

3 - Call a meeting

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

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Post by niko323 »

Yeah, but they are short-term re-hires. Once they "get encoded" it will be bye Felica: "Ford just wants to first seasoned engineers walked out before their decades of knowledge could be encoded into automated workflows." https://www.gadgetreview.com/ford-fired-its-best-engineers-l...

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Post by sarchertech »

simianwords wrote: post #98
khriss wrote: post #57

Interestingly, there were no consequences for the execs that made this 'mistake'. There seems to be almost unlimited cover for execs cargo culting on using AI as a pretext for layoffs. If it doesn't implode almost immediately, they get massive bonuses, if it blows up in their face, oh well they had the courage to 'take a bold strategic decision' In other words, they don't really have a plan, but they are happy playin…

Is there any consequence for execs who don't layoff when they are supposed to? You have to look at the situation symmetrically.

Why does it need to be symmetric? There’s no reason we couldn’t decide that we want to err on the side of employing too many people.

We already do with legislation that requires severance packages and tax benefits for hiring. Many countries go much further.

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Post by djha-skin »

khriss wrote: post #57

Interestingly, there were no consequences for the execs that made this 'mistake'. There seems to be almost unlimited cover for execs cargo culting on using AI as a pretext for layoffs. If it doesn't implode almost immediately, they get massive bonuses, if it blows up in their face, oh well they had the courage to 'take a bold strategic decision' In other words, they don't really have a plan, but they are happy playin…

Punishing leadership for perceived strategy mistakes is a great way to scare good leadership away from working for you.

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Post by dessimus »

flowerthoughts wrote: post #116

I wonder which of the management consulting companies caused this fire/rehire experiment.

It's not like those consultants recommended something the CEO and Board didn't want to hear. They are paid to be the shield that blocks the arrows from shareholders. If they can get paid twice, once to recommend laying off 350 engineers and again to later recommend refilling 350 engineers all the better.

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Post by baron816 »

khriss wrote: post #57

Interestingly, there were no consequences for the execs that made this 'mistake'. There seems to be almost unlimited cover for execs cargo culting on using AI as a pretext for layoffs. If it doesn't implode almost immediately, they get massive bonuses, if it blows up in their face, oh well they had the courage to 'take a bold strategic decision' In other words, they don't really have a plan, but they are happy playin…

Why are you assuming this? Because Bloomberg didn’t report the execs’ performance reviews? Maybe they did face consequences and we just don’t know.

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Post by [deleted] »

zzzeek wrote: post #120
khriss wrote: post #57

Interestingly, there were no consequences for the execs that made this 'mistake'. There seems to be almost unlimited cover for execs cargo culting on using AI as a pretext for layoffs. If it doesn't implode almost immediately, they get massive bonuses, if it blows up in their face, oh well they had the courage to 'take a bold strategic decision' In other words, they don't really have a plan, but they are happy playin…

> execs cargo culting on using AI as a pretext for layoffs. reading this article I think that is not what happened in this specific case: > Over the last three years, Ford says it has hired 350 veteran engineers, many of them former employees and others from suppliers, to help address seemingly intractable quality woes that have cost the automaker billions. > “Mistakenly we thought that by just introducing artificial…

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