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And if they put them in the middle of nowhere, I don't see why there's a problem. What I don't understand is putting these things in populated areas.
Would you like to work in the middle of nowhere?
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If you don't fight data centers, data centers won't seek solution oriented ways to lower their footprint. You are really saying that you can't fight data center demand. And that is true, but you can restrain their supply, increase their cost, and optimize on low impact approaches.
> If you don't fight data centers, data centers won't seek solution oriented ways to lower their footprint. You are really saying that you can't fight data center demand. And that is true, but you can restrain their supply, increase their cost, and optimize on low impact approaches. Not that this is an apples to apples comparison but imagine people saying that about nuclear reactors. Yes, we want them to be as safe a…
Any safety measure that requires the humans to do the right procedures the right way for 10^5 years is not safety.
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Maybe, that's why they want Greenland so bad. Low temperature, many free spaces, no significant nature and if there is one, not enough citizen who can complain. And if they still need water for cooling, there is probably enough from the melting ice they can use.
No, datacenters are placed near cities because the biggest concern is workforce.
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"Everyone will be living in the metaverse by 2025, you can't fight it so might as well buy virtual property near Snoop Dogg" It takes one recesssion and all datacenter spending will get rolled back. Yes technology will not go away, AI has been here for over many decades that doesn't mean the current paradigm will continue always and exactly the same forever into the future. If history shows us anything its that parad…
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Not to mention that a huge percentage of the fiber laid in the 90s was never used. It was put in the wrong place or turned out to be the wrong type or was just lost when the "the internet is the future and will change everything. it runs over fiber and we'll need so much more than we could ever lay" companies went bust.
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Do you have any references for this comment: '"water use" thing is a myth anyway'. I would like to show my kid who keeps complaining to me about AI water usage.
how does this square against georgia just ignoring it draining the water supply, https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/08/georgia-data-center... and reports of undrinkable water due to the ai center construction? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8gy7lv448o even in the article you linked, it admits AI data centers CAN harm water supplies "Individual data centers can sometimes stress local water systems in the way o…
> What actually happened here was that [...] two water hookups at a data center construction site weren't properly registered or linked to a billable account. When the utility noticed the problem, they sent the data center a retroactive bill for all the water, for $147,474 covering ~29M gallons. The data center paid it.
> Did the data center cause the low water pressure? The article very strongly implies a connection, but doesn't give the reader the right numbers to judge whether this actually happened. To figure this out, we need to know over what time the 30 million gallons was drawn [...] That's about 1% of the county's daily water output. There are a ton of ways a water system like this can experience low water pressure, and a 1% dip just isn't one of them.
> [...] the complaint about low water pressure [which led to discovering the billing problem] was coming from a private well that the data center didn't even draw from
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It's a response to the FUD that is water usage in data centers. Data centers don't use a meaningful amount of water when compared to just about any other industrial application, or many recreational ones. Data centers used about 66 billion liters 2023. source: https://escholarship.org/uc/item/32d6m0d1 Golf courses used 2 trillion liters in 2020. We won't even bring up almond production.
The issue is though data centers are being built in areas with scarce water resources and they get prioritized. They still use a lot of water.
> and the same liquid can be recirculated in a closed loop so no new water is consumed to cool the chips That doesn't mean a datacenter doesn't have a very high _initial_ need for water, or to replace _some_ amount of leakage, replacement etc (agreed it will be way lower than say a swamp cooler). For example, they could be using millions of gallons as a sort of "ballast" to keep the water temperature very stable in t…
Claude write good. Nvidia has so much money and they can’t afford to pay a human for a day of their time to write a blog post?
> Claude write good. > Nvidia has so much money and they can’t afford to pay a human for a day of their time to write a blog post? The shareholders desperately need that money.
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> AI and datacenters are here to stay, you can’t fight them, Maybe you can't (or don't want to), but people can absolutely fight data center construction. Your lack of imagination doesn't bind others.
But why? I want cheap tokens. Build a data center on every block (or more realistically in all the empty space we have everywhere).
I propose that you don’t actually want cheap tokens. You want cheap tokens in service of some other goals. Are they worth the environmental cost?