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They agree on immigration, both illegal (border security) and skilled (H1B). They agree on trade policy and tariffs. They agree on public stakes in AI and semiconductor companies. They used to agree on foreign intervention, though Trump 47 less so.
If you think Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump broadly "agree on immigration" you've lost your mind.
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Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand
#72Wait what ? Emmanuel Macron far more right than Xi Jinping ? And even more than Barack Obama ? France has an incomparable social security ; environmental laws ; worker protection ; way less economic inequality ; freedom of speech and civil liberties are impossible to compare with China ; etc Of course this is not exhaustive, of course Macron did try to hinder some of those rights, but come on, there's something wrong…
No opinion on Macron's rightness (I think he's so weak as to be unable to have a position, but that's neither here nor there). I think you misattribute, everything you cited was there before him and he had no leverage to change any of it. EU is left, FR is very left, and anyone elected president in FR can't do shit. Now, if you task an LLM to skim hot news you'll get a distorted rendition of a projected image which h…
"EU is left". Haha, good joke. This shows how much the US and the audience of HN has shifted to the right.
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No opinion on Macron's rightness (I think he's so weak as to be unable to have a position, but that's neither here nor there). I think you misattribute, everything you cited was there before him and he had no leverage to change any of it. EU is left, FR is very left, and anyone elected president in FR can't do shit. Now, if you task an LLM to skim hot news you'll get a distorted rendition of a projected image which h…
"EU is left". Haha, good joke. This shows how much the US and the audience of HN has shifted to the right.
Haha nice catch. In EU there is no left or right, only reelections by scaremongering. Also 75% effective tax rate, not including VAT.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you think Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump broadly "agree on immigration" you've lost your mind.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/24/bernie-sande... https://americancommunitymedia.org/immigration/h-1b-workers-...
See, this is why this exchange happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48674336 / https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48674103
Your first link - which is a little funny as you tried to slam me for using NPR and CNN as sources, then picked The Guardian - agrees with me; that Sanders and Trump disagree on immigration, even if they agree that Biden flubbed it.
> “The idea that Trump has … he says he wants to deport 20 million people who are in this country who are undocumented,” Sanders said. “Well, you do that, you destroy the country, because I got news for you – Trump’s billionaire friends are not going to pick the crops in California that feed us. They’re not going to work in meat packing houses. That’s what undocumented people are doing.”
Read more than just the headline, perhaps?
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Substitute 'Communitarian' and 'Classical Liberal' if you find the common political compass terms too charged.
Since when are Socialists considered Classical Liberals? It's not that the labels are charged, it's that they are nonsensical unless you look at them from a very narrow bespoke perspective, where "things I like" go on one side and "bad things" go on the other. Objectively (or even from any other biased perspective), it's rubbish.
They aren't. You flipped them, not sure if intentionally or by accident.
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Grok and its creator are unequivocally evil. Against protection of all but capital for the sake of enabling the oligarch class to further consolidate power ans abuse the working class.
unequivocally goes to far imo. The rockets are good and cool.
Rockets achieved by the engineers, not C-suite. The rockets would have been here under someone else too.
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I don't want my models to be "centrists" and bothside everything for the sake of it. I want them to provide the facts and tell me which side is right on the issue.
I guess centrist is a placeholder for "I don't want you to pick a side, I want facts, not BS" I'll go further, I don't care which side is right, I want to know what claims are factually accurate, and what claims are omitted from the issue / news / conversation.
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Since when are Socialists considered Classical Liberals? It's not that the labels are charged, it's that they are nonsensical unless you look at them from a very narrow bespoke perspective, where "things I like" go on one side and "bad things" go on the other. Objectively (or even from any other biased perspective), it's rubbish.
They aren't. You flipped them, not sure if intentionally or by accident.
So are you saying Xi Jinping is the Classical Liberal and Bernie Sanders is the Comunitarian? Or are you saying it's the other way around?
(For clarity: I didn't "flip" them, I'm saying that they are both Communitarian and neither is a Classical Liberal.)
Re: Political bias in AI: Where the AI models stand
#80Political bias of LLMs is something not talked about much (except for with Grok of course) but could have a big impact on the next decade. People seem to think that because an LLM gave a nuanced answer that it means it gave the WHOLE picture… and that’s not always the same thing
I'm amazed that the big models haven't come under more ideological pressure as more and more people use them, especially in the US. There was that conflict with Anthropic over military usage, but apart from that there's been no visible push to censor outputs or alter training, even as models gamely make unflattering assessments of people in power and knock down conspiracy theories.