Live data from Hacker News

Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

bloomberg.com

51–60 of 592 posts

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

#51

The reason AI fails in Industry is that SKILL.md or other knowledge-injection methods do not guarantee compliance. AI just thinks it "knows better".

Not sure if this was ironic. I guess it mainly fails because a lot of knowledge and experience is intuitive and not codified.

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

#52

This is going to be the norm across the board as the models have failed to live up to the hype. I do think LLMs and agents and all are great at helping you through tough problems but we aren’t there yet on getting them to do all the work while we just architect and design. Again, it’s close, and for your use cases you might be there already but for low level and big corporate lift and shifts, it’s not there yet. I ha…

Documentation driven development is your friend here. 75% of my workflow is generating documentation, at ever lower levels of abstraction, until it’s just code. The code usually comes out optimal, clean, and bug free (after passing tests) and. Suuuuuper well documented lol.

It’s human in the loop over and over again tho

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

#53
post #41

The reason AI fails in Industry is that SKILL.md or other knowledge-injection methods do not guarantee compliance. AI just thinks it "knows better".

A friend of mine prepared an arsenal of hooks and the like to address this and LLMs still disobey them at times. I don't have high hopes that there exists a bulletproof solution to this.

Personally, for me that represents job security. Having a human with a high level of domain knowledge in the loop seems pretty required to get any meaningful results.

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

#54

The folks who make the decision to throw away these engineers in the first place are the ones who should be laid off.

The only job AI's are capable are doing is the role of executive. I think we should replace every C-Suiter with AI.

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

#56
post #30

The folks who make the decision to throw away these engineers in the first place are the ones who should be laid off.

Nice thing about the C-suite is that you get authority and compensation without responsibility. You just claim responsibility when things are good. And when bad, the underlings who have responsibilities but no authority take the heat.

And this is why the C-suite is the single best target for replacement by AI.

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

#57
Interestingly, there were no consequences for the execs that made this 'mistake'. There seems to be almost unlimited cover for execs cargo culting on using AI as a pretext for layoffs. If it doesn't implode almost immediately, they get massive bonuses, if it blows up in their face, oh well they had the courage to 'take a bold strategic decision'

In other words, they don't really have a plan, but they are happy playing with people's lives via layoffs, since it's the 'in' thing to do. The incentives are huge on the upside and zero on the downside for them.

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

#58
AI is a great revolutionary tool for work, but it is still a tool and needs humans to drive it. Obviously companies heard the promise of "Replace your large headcount expense with cheap tokens" and creamed their pants. Its funny to see them walk back, it will be at least a few years if not more before it replaces humans fully (and will need another breakthrough)

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

#60

The reason AI fails in Industry is that SKILL.md or other knowledge-injection methods do not guarantee compliance. AI just thinks it "knows better".

If compliance was the main issue we wouldn't have had to invent ways for computers to do something other than exactly what they were asked.
Post reply on HN