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Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

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Post by Spherical » Mon, Dec 03, 2012, 7:54 PM UTC

Volpe wrote: post #46

Spherical wrote: post #45

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Source: A friend IOS App collecting analytics data. Sure, I could make it up but that is the data he got back.

Right and 99.9% of chinese run iOS... A more likely answer is you are just Racist.

I should have been more clear, so let me correct that for you, of 99.9% of those that owned IOS and that downloaded his app - they did not pay for it. For the record it got 4.5 stars with over 800 reviews so it not by all means crap. That is the figure I was given. Given we were talking about mobile, I was using that as my guide for a platform not yet on the market.

China has some of the highest piracy rates in the world—with a piracy rate of 96% in PC software, 93% in motion pictures, and 85% in records and music. [“China Fever” F. Fang 2007, International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA) report, Feb. 18. 2010 ]

http://www.china-mike.com/facts-about-china/economy-investme...

Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

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Post by mannkind » Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 12:30 AM UTC

pkulak wrote: post #19

whalesalad wrote: post #2

No way. The UI is a gimmick. Watch the video. Seeing him use it does not lead me to believe this will make my life better at all. There are far too many intricate gestures and complex interactions. This UI does not solve any problems. The interactive tiles that are essentially miniature versions of the full app are just noisy. Part of the beauty of this new mobile experience that recent smartphones have cultivated is…

Please don't call Samsung gimmicks "Android". Nothing Samsung has ever shoehorned into Android has been useful. And efficient multi-tasking _can_ be very nice. For example, Android has a dedicated app-switching button. One tap shows you a list of your last-used apps, about 5 visible without scrolling. It makes it insanely fast to swap between apps. On iOS you have to double tap a physical button. If not that, then yo…

Really? Is it really that different to double tap a hardware button than it is to tap one? You must feel the same way about single-vs-double clicking a mouse then, I suppose ... because it's the exact same thing.

Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

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Post by daliusd » Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 12:11 PM UTC

halostatue wrote: post #50

daliusd wrote: post #41

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Where do you collect your facts? I'm not even sure if you don't have bad intentions with your comment. It would be nice from your side to state your relation to Jolla (e.g. competitor) 1. Headline was written by journalist not by Jolla. OK I got it wrong. You are negative to journalist, right? 2. You are most probably right about production but you simply don't know. You are wrong about carrier partners: they have on…

I have no relation to Jolla at all—neither competitor or likely customer. At the moment, I'm not doing any direct mobile development (we will be offering something for mobile in the future, but this is not affected by the existence or absence of Jolla). My entire relationship with Jolla is reading this nonsensical article and writing my comment with a bit of simple (short) research. 1. Yes, the journalist (or his edi…

I agree that article is poor. Jolla's official presentations, interviews with them or their twitter feed is much better source of information.

2b. I guess that's poor interpretation what Jolla says about China. In general Jolla puts a lot of hope/weight in China.

3. Let's wait and see. While betting on China from their side might mean that users will have less freedom not more.

5. My impression is that Hurmola simply not enjoyed being CEO (he found himself more valuable in other position). http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/15/jolla-ceo-switch/

I personally believe that at least one company should manage to take special place in current market (BB10, Jolla, Mozilla, someone else) - I don't want to name it 3rd ecosystem because it is not. My bet is on BB10 and Jolla (BB10 has bigger chances than Jolla, but Jolla might succeed in Europe as well if marketed properly). I personally find Android quite boring/unattractive/wrong and iOS too closed - both as developer and as user.

Re: Sailfish – a real alternative to iPhone and Android?

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Post by pkulak » Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 7:18 PM UTC

mannkind wrote: post #52

pkulak wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't call Samsung gimmicks "Android". Nothing Samsung has ever shoehorned into Android has been useful. And efficient multi-tasking _can_ be very nice. For example, Android has a dedicated app-switching button. One tap shows you a list of your last-used apps, about 5 visible without scrolling. It makes it insanely fast to swap between apps. On iOS you have to double tap a physical button. If not that, then yo…

Really? Is it really that different to double tap a hardware button than it is to tap one? You must feel the same way about single-vs-double clicking a mouse then, I suppose ... because it's the exact same thing.

No, it's not the exact same thing. Single tapping a mouse is selection. There's no waiting for the second tap because an item can be "selected" for a fraction of a second before it's opened. A home button can't take you home for a fraction of a second before the multitasking bar opens, so every home press has to wait before it can know what you intend it to do.