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Medical students are using popular research tool to pump out misleading studies

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Re: Medical students are using popular research tool to pump out misleading studies

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My assumption is the credibility of a non-PhD-holding medical student’s research is 0, just like (almost) any other inexperienced researcher.

a friend of a friend who did a stint in biomedical academia told me that the researchers in their field did not hold research coming from the medicine community in high regard

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My assumption is the credibility of a non-PhD-holding medical student’s research is 0, just like (almost) any other inexperienced researcher.

LLVM was a masters thesis project (not medicine related but research by non PhDs should not be disregarded imo)

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admissions and residency matching give a lot of weight to "research output", aka publications.

For residency, the two most important things are: 1) board scores. 2) research output.

It's not uncommon to see 40-50 publications for competitive residencies.

incentives, incentives, incentives.

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My assumption is the credibility of a non-PhD-holding medical student’s research is 0, just like (almost) any other inexperienced researcher.

LLVM was a masters thesis project (not medicine related but research by non PhDs should not be disregarded imo)

LLVM was a thing that demonstrated its value by working when you used it. And you can't judge a population (all non-PhD theses) by its tippety-top performers, particularly when there are poor incentives involved.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, that is a statement..! As an MD PhD with over 60 (co-)publications including multiple in top 1% journals I can say for sure that this is untrue. Of course this may be different per topic and country, but there is perfect research being published by non-PhD scientists. In fact, the PI from a top-tier US university I collaborate with for over 10 years doesn't even have a PhD.

You can be a PI without having a PhD?

Even Hassabis found time to do a PhD. This is extra strange.

Re: Medical students are using popular research tool to pump out misleading studies

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Researcher/academics pay/promotoins should be contingent on reviewing,challenging and reproducing papers rather than publishing quantity, because publishing cartels and AI has already degraded most research fields.

Reproducibility in many scientific as areas has been made almost impossible. We have got to the stage where IP matters more than scientific rigour so methodology is purposely left out.

Re: Medical students are using popular research tool to pump out misleading studies

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My assumption is the credibility of a non-PhD-holding medical student’s research is 0, just like (almost) any other inexperienced researcher.

What has PhD got to do with anything. Research is research regardless of who does it if using proper scientific method.

Such obvious common sense appears not obvious after all.

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