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Re: OpenAI unveils its first custom chip, built by Broadcom

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Actually, you've provided examples that prove the point. None of those were especially good (though everyone wanted the G4 Cube), and yet they made it to market anyway. Why? Because the CEO was behind it, breathing down their necks.

Pretty much every example is considered an abysmal failure that often costed the actual workers their careers while their CEO carried on. If you consider that outcome a worthwhile endeavor, I don't know what else to say.

He's definitely not talking about worthy endeavour.

He's talking about an endeavour reaching the market.

I'm sure if Zuckerberg wants to spend $10B on Nuclear Fusion it will happen.

Re: OpenAI unveils its first custom chip, built by Broadcom

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Big companies are lumbering behemoth, crude assemblages of barely cobbled-together incentives and principal agent problems in a trenchcoat. Getting them to change direction, or worse, try something new at scale, is a massive undertaking

Nah, you just need to get the CEO behind it. Most coordination issues get solved when the CEO is breathing down your neck to get something done. Trouble is that they don't do this enough.

CEOs have limited bandwidth, and can only breath down so many necks at once.

Re: OpenAI unveils its first custom chip, built by Broadcom

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this appeared some time ago, https://taalas.com/ , but I'm sure there's others thinking these same thoughts. this would be best for small models imo, nothing frontier because that changes too fast

you can try it out here: https://chatjimmy.ai/

It's indeed super fast, but the output is complete BS hallucination. Not sure what's the value of this.

Re: OpenAI unveils its first custom chip, built by Broadcom

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This is very cool to see - seems like soooo much efficiency waiting to be unlocked at the chip level. What's everyone think of Taalas? They're actually burning the LLM model into the silicon, with some onboard memory for fine-tuning. They claim huge cost / latency wins. Super fast demo live at: https://chatjimmy.ai/ https://taalas.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1r9frzk/taalas...

> seems like soooo much efficiency waiting to be unlocked at the chip level Well if you are exclusively using GPUs that are general purpose, of course you leave so much efficiency on the table. That’s why Google started making TPUs more than a decade ago. I remember that kerfuffle when Google fired Timnit Gebru when Gebru’s paper used GPUs to calculate the environment impact of LLMs while ignoring the efficiency of T…

I haven't read any of these papers, but given the environmental impact of LLMs in 2026, it seems like Timnit Gebru has been thoroughly vindicated...

Re: OpenAI unveils its first custom chip, built by Broadcom

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The question isn’t whether it works (it does); the question is whether there are buyers for hardware that is obsolete the day it ships. Models evolve much more quickly than hardware can keep up.

Presumably at some point the rapid progress of models will plateau, at least insofar as a model could be frozen in time and remain economically useful for the expected life of hardware. Especially if it comes with compelling benefits e.g. dramatically lower latency and/or dramatically higher performance per watt. If you can build chips that could run one specific LLM 100x faster than anything else, it would have a us…

https://www.cerebras.ai/ is exactly that! Holy shit it's fast.

Re: OpenAI unveils its first custom chip, built by Broadcom

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This may be extreme, or, completely stupid, but, why are we not using genetics to "grow" chips in a chemical soup yet? Similar to Verilog/VHDL, don't we have some similar language to express circuits using gene sequences?

We lack robust frameworks for 'forward engineering' stochastic thermodynamic computation over molecular free-energy landscapes (which is basically what a "chemical soup" is doing) like we do for analog/optical/digital computing. This is why, as a field, medicine is so heavily empirical and reverse engineering oriented.

Man... I had to chatgpt your comment just to understand. But I do now.

Basically, unlike current chip manufacturing process where every stage is deterministic and precise, the soup-world, the chemistry, is not. And we do not have accurate enough models to handle them in deterministic way, or, model them precisely.

My respect for nature's engineering just shot up by 10 times more.

Re: OpenAI unveils its first custom chip, built by Broadcom

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> Developed from design to production in nine months, accelerated by OpenAI’s models > the use of OpenAI models to accelerate parts of the design and optimization process. I wish there was more about this. As is I kind of have to assume that this is just meaningless marketing, like saying development was accelerated by Microsoft Office or their 5k LG Ultrafine 40-inch monitors. Like, if this was as big a deal as it k…

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Re: OpenAI unveils its first custom chip, built by Broadcom

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Because of Micron, no? I don't think it's related to OpenAI's announcement

What happened with Micron?

The stock went down quite a lot before their latest earnings report. That dragged all semis and memory stocks down

Re: OpenAI unveils its first custom chip, built by Broadcom

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I wanna see an inference chip where the weights are part of the rom of the chip. There would be 1 multiplier per weight (and since they're constant, the whole thing turns into a bunch of simple adders), and the total pipelined system throughput would be one token per clock cycle. That means you can probably have millions of users simultaneously using a single bit of silicon, with perhaps 500 million tokens per second…

> "Downside is this chip would be huuuuge - a whole wafer."

Why don't we have chips like that? If a CPU the size of a postage stamp can do x amount of performance, imagine how much performance you could get if you used an entire wafer of chips running in parallel. Obviously there would be certain use cases, like you couldn't fit an entire wafer in a phone, but still

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