Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
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Re: Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
#2It sounds like Anthropic is eagerly trying to show to USG that they are willing to heavily monitor ‘foreign adversaries’ on their platforms.
This combined with no implementation of KYC makes it seem like they want to find a middle ground with Fable where its off of export controls but they promise to prevent China and specific others from using.
Re: Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
#3I'm looking forward to the trial where Anthropic will have to disclose sources of their training data, and then explain why they are entitled to charging customers for using regurgitated training data but Alibaba which trains their models on Anthropic's models are not.
Should be fun.
Edit: clarification
Re: Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
#4Notice how Anthropic is now scapegoating Chinese models providers like Alibaba and outright accusing them of distilling their models.
Whether if it is true or not, this is part of their effort into using them as an example to scare everyone into getting congress to ban powerful models from being accessed outside of the US and also banning powerful local models from being released.
Anthropic does not care about you, and they are not your friends.
Re: Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
#5Notice how Anthropic is now scapegoating Chinese models providers like Alibaba and outright accusing them of distilling their models. Whether if it is true or not, this is part of their effort into using them as an example to scare everyone into getting congress to ban powerful models from being accessed outside of the US and also banning powerful local models from being released. Anthropic does not care about you, a…
> Whether if it is true or not
If it was just "that easy" then I doubt only "Chinese models" would be doing it and we'd already be packed with competition.
Distilling might be a thing but it isn't a free win.
Re: Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
#6I'm looking forward to the trial where Anthropic will have to disclose sources of their training data, and then explain why they are entitled to charging customers for using regurgitated training data but Alibaba which trains their models on Anthropic's models are not. Should be fun. Edit: clarification
While I love the sentiment, I feel like the odds of this actually ever reaching a trial are low, given the international positioning of the parties, and the... um... complex relationships involved.
Anthropic's actions seem performative. Others have already speculated on the likely audience(s).
Re: Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
#7I'm looking forward to the trial where Anthropic will have to disclose sources of their training data, and then explain why they are entitled to charging customers for using regurgitated training data but Alibaba which trains their models on Anthropic's models are not. Should be fun. Edit: clarification
Being logically consistent isn’t as profitable as being aggressive and loud.
Re: Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
#8It sounds like Anthropic is eagerly trying to show to USG that they are willing to heavily monitor ‘foreign adversaries’ on their platforms. This combined with no implementation of KYC makes it seem like they want to find a middle ground with Fable where its off of export controls but they promise to prevent China and specific others from using.
This seems to me like a stab in the right direction.
Obviously their actions are going to be fiscally motivated at the root, but sussing out how they intend the precise dynamics to play out is more nuanced.
Thinking of this as an effort to woo the defense hawks cuts a very clear path.
Re: Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
#9If true then Alibaba is doing us a public service, good job, I hope this extraction was successful.
Re: Anthropic says Alibaba illicitly extracted Claude AI model capabilities
#10I'm looking forward to the trial where Anthropic will have to disclose sources of their training data, and then explain why they are entitled to charging customers for using regurgitated training data but Alibaba which trains their models on Anthropic's models are not. Should be fun. Edit: clarification
They already did and paid 1.5B https://authorsguild.org/advocacy/artificial-intelligence/wh...