A Tesla Crashed Through a Harris County Home. Is the Car to Blame?
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#7Tesla proponents say it’s the drivers fault since the accelerator was held while dissenters say why didn’t the FSD step in.
I happened to just test drive a new model Y having never done so before and not being very interested for various reasons. I may be getting the new L version when released soon in the US it was very impressive especially for the current price compared to the competition and how impressive FSD was is part of my change of heart.
You can hold the accelerator while FSD is engaged to tell it to go faster, this made sense but I assumed it was a suggestion not a go down with the ship command.
So the question is should FSD prevent unsafe speed and ramming objects when engaged even if operator holds accelerator. Based on what I saw with FSD it should know the speed limit and that it was heading to a dead end cul de sac ahead of time and the cameras should see the house near the end perhaps too late to stop but at least slow down.
The argument is I have heard there are actually regulations requiring it to accept accelerator input regardless but I have used other vehicles that emergency brake based on sensor input while manually driving even somewhat annoyingly when no actual obstruction exists (phantom braking).
My thoughts are FSD was on so the accelerator is a suggestion not a to the death command and it should have not allowed the vehicle to enter the house at 70 mph. So while the driver is at fault so is FSD and the complacency it presents contributes to driver error.
Most likely explanation is the driver panic hit the accelerator instead of brake. From driving with FSD it seem easy to get complacent and then do something like that when needing to take over vs normal driving where you are already engaged with braking and accelerating manually.
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#8There is no actuator that can press the pedal down, so if investigators find that the accelerator was still pushed down after the crash it probably means that this isn't a software problem.
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#9So my understanding is the telemetry shows the FSD was on and driver held the accelerator down the whole time and the car did 70+ mph into the home. Tesla proponents say it’s the drivers fault since the accelerator was held while dissenters say why didn’t the FSD step in. I happened to just test drive a new model Y having never done so before and not being very interested for various reasons. I may be getting the new…
We don't know what the telemetry shows. Tesla tweeted something. The driver says something else. That's insufficient data with which to conclude anything with confidence.
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#10> They reached a speed of 73 mph during the crash, and had the accelerator pressed even after the crash. There is no actuator that can press the pedal down, so if investigators find that the accelerator was still pushed down after the crash it probably means that this isn't a software problem.
I have driven normal cars that cut power and brake if they detect a perceived dangerous situation usually annoyingly and in error. Traction control will also cut power to prevent wheel slip regardless of pedal position.