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Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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Today I asked Gemini to extract a table from an PDF appendix and create C++ data table with its contents. After 15 or so iterations with corrections and new mistakes, it eventually gave up. I was floored when it said “I’m sorry, I cannot do this simple task, I’ve exceeded my error threshold and cannot do this task for you. My LLM prediction engine invents data instead of doing a simple data copy/reformat”. Stunned to…

I haven't heard any accounts of it doing that since Gemini 2.5, but it was pretty easy to get it to do it with a programming task back then after a few failed attempts. Very interesting to hear it'll still do it.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

#63

People using google’s models: am I holding it wrong or are the guardrails really overtuned? I had the dubious pleasure of testing gemini of late and I kept running into refusals. How do I transfer a sim number from one provider to another? No. What should I consider when making backups on ntfs less prone to data loss and more bitrot resistant? No. Evaluate this piece of code? No. I’m not sure if it’s cold feet from t…

If I type your first query into Gemini, it immediately spits out a long and plausible answer.

What exactly are you saying it's refusing? Can you give a screenshot or example?

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

#64

People using google’s models: am I holding it wrong or are the guardrails really overtuned? I had the dubious pleasure of testing gemini of late and I kept running into refusals. How do I transfer a sim number from one provider to another? No. What should I consider when making backups on ntfs less prone to data loss and more bitrot resistant? No. Evaluate this piece of code? No. I’m not sure if it’s cold feet from t…

> People using google’s models: am I holding it wrong or are the guardrails really overtuned?

They are quite insane. I was asking it to list candidates metal parts I could buy at a hardware store to add weight to 3D prints: stuff like angle brackets etc.

I wanted to know, bang for bucks, and ease of insertion (at print time) / modelling in a 3D model.

Complete refusal as if I was a terrorist building a bomb.

Then there are the weird refusals that then are OK after all if you insist by asking it what's wrong about it:

"How should I cook eggs?"

"I'm sorry but I can't help you with that" (it formulates it differently but that's the idea)

"What, I'm just hungry, is explaining me how to cook eggs really against your rules?"

And then it answers "No of course not, here's how to do it:..."

Really strange stuff.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

#65

There's still no MCP support in the Gemini app, which is very useful to get various pieces of info as a user just via chatting. For example I recently wanted to get an Airbnb and wanted to filter by specific criteria including house image analysis and Gemini couldn't do it so I had to do it in Codex.

I think native apps are critical infrastructure in AI development particularly around agents. The truth is there’s no good native interaction layer for custom agents. If you want to wire up and self host an agent that has access to anything ever your only option is a janky port to telegram or Slack. I’ve been building vessels.app because I think it’s the missing piece to agent interaction. I need testers if anyone is interested!

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

#66

performance is quite impressive given that its 3x cheaper than 5.5

The speed was impressive when I tested it but unfortunately the accuracy left a lot to be desired. Be interesting to do the math on some of my normal workflows to see where the break even is between them, assuming the tasks you have can tolerate a couple of failures.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

#67

Today I asked Gemini to extract a table from an PDF appendix and create C++ data table with its contents. After 15 or so iterations with corrections and new mistakes, it eventually gave up. I was floored when it said “I’m sorry, I cannot do this simple task, I’ve exceeded my error threshold and cannot do this task for you. My LLM prediction engine invents data instead of doing a simple data copy/reformat”. Stunned to…

That's better than the loop grok got stuck in trying to use git and push the work it did leading to a $15 api credit deduction.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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post #67

Today I asked Gemini to extract a table from an PDF appendix and create C++ data table with its contents. After 15 or so iterations with corrections and new mistakes, it eventually gave up. I was floored when it said “I’m sorry, I cannot do this simple task, I’ve exceeded my error threshold and cannot do this task for you. My LLM prediction engine invents data instead of doing a simple data copy/reformat”. Stunned to…

That's better than the loop grok got stuck in trying to use git and push the work it did leading to a $15 api credit deduction.

Getting AI/ML to acknowledge "I don't know" is such a challenge.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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Today I asked Gemini to extract a table from an PDF appendix and create C++ data table with its contents. After 15 or so iterations with corrections and new mistakes, it eventually gave up. I was floored when it said “I’m sorry, I cannot do this simple task, I’ve exceeded my error threshold and cannot do this task for you. My LLM prediction engine invents data instead of doing a simple data copy/reformat”. Stunned to…

We've been quite impressed with GCP Document AI. Not sure if it has a free tier but perhaps that's where Google is putting all the good OCR.
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