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In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

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Re: In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

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post #23

When you work in multi language environment the squiggles are often less than useful. They are just visual noise I must fight or ignore because the system tries to guess the language of the text I'm writing and it is most often wrong. And manually switching language settings between each interaction is way to inconvenient.

Oh yeah - typical American thinking behind it. Everybody knows English and only uses one language.

Re: In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

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post #23

When you work in multi language environment the squiggles are often less than useful. They are just visual noise I must fight or ignore because the system tries to guess the language of the text I'm writing and it is most often wrong. And manually switching language settings between each interaction is way to inconvenient.

That's not a problem with the squiggles as a user interface, but with the software assuming that you speak only one language.

Re: In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

#83
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with AI I imagine ... I think that might be just imagination - android autocorrect in particular got sufficiently worse that I finally turned it off (I still use it as a "typing assist" - it only displays choices that I can tap to replace, or (more often) ignore.)

What I mean is that if I entered a sentence into ChatGPT/Gemini/Grok and tell it to fix the flagged word, it will be able to get it right almost all of the time (assuming it's not a weird proper noun or inside joke slang).

Often, but not always. For my thesis, I ended up with a section related to porn. ChatGPT simply refused to spell-check that section. Also, recently I wrote a comment on HN about different subsets of English being easier to learn for native Spanish or German speakers, and the Samsung AI spellchecker refused to review it because it was considered "inappropriate content."

Re: In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

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post #23

When you work in multi language environment the squiggles are often less than useful. They are just visual noise I must fight or ignore because the system tries to guess the language of the text I'm writing and it is most often wrong. And manually switching language settings between each interaction is way to inconvenient.

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Re: In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

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post #23

When you work in multi language environment the squiggles are often less than useful. They are just visual noise I must fight or ignore because the system tries to guess the language of the text I'm writing and it is most often wrong. And manually switching language settings between each interaction is way to inconvenient.

On most systems I use I've managed to set it up so that I get spell checking in all languages I use. So I only get a red line if it's not a valid word in any of the languages, which is pretty useful.

Re: In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

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I want to see yellow squiggles under logic errors. That will keep the programmers busy for a while.

I actually implemented that! I have a private IntelliJ plugin that feeds markdown documents through an LLM and then highlights internal contradictions with the usual yellow background used for warnings. I use it when writing specs.

Re: In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

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post #62

> he accomplished this without the source code Sure thing, who needs source code? This is HN. But instead of reverse-engineering, I would just find or write an emulator, in case I would be asked to "port" another software. It's actually sad that for the most part, we don't know who is responsible for the good and bad features of software we use. In movies, there is an extensive practice of showing "credits" at the en…

> In movies, there is an extensive practice of showing "credits" at the end, and I enjoy reading them in detail.

Thanks to huge protracted union fights. You’ll find the credits in an old US-produced movie—say, Gone with the Wind—are much more sparse than in one from the last decade or two. Incidentally, those fights happened too early to include CGI artists, and those often do go uncredited (undercredited?) even today.

Not that the Hollywood unions are a definite positive in all respects, or that the whole idea of fighting an oligopsony by establishing a monopoly in the shape of a cooperative doesn’t ring warning bells in my mind. But the movie industry absolutely would not credit most people if it could get away with it, and I wouldn’t expect the software industry to be any different (barring rare early pre-financialization examples[1]).

[1] https://www.folklore.org/Signing_Party.html

Re: In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

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post #23

When you work in multi language environment the squiggles are often less than useful. They are just visual noise I must fight or ignore because the system tries to guess the language of the text I'm writing and it is most often wrong. And manually switching language settings between each interaction is way to inconvenient.

At least in Firefox I can select multiple dictionaries. Firefox will ignore words that are a match in any of those languages, at the cost ofc, of typos that are in one language but not another so sometimes I'll right click and uncheck a language temporarily.

Re: In memory of the man who put red and green squiggles under words

#90
I'm pretty sure that I was the one that came with the idea for adding them to generic text widgets when I implemented that in KDE (originally to add spell checking in KMail, since spell checking in email clients wasn't a thing yet). At that time spell checking was only done in word processors. Pretty quickly every other environment, including Windows and macOS followed suite.
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