How easy it is to put all tge dogs on a vehicle, rather than on drivers.
If you ban a truck - the asshole driving it will just buy bmw instead.
Don’t you see? Why all the good people have to suffer?
The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs
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Oh don't I know it. I'm currently in the midst of a full blown temper tantrum over the Toyota Hilux being unavailable on the US market. I need an actual real truck for actual real truck shit and there's literally nothing on the market that's serviceable.
You can import a 25+ year old vehicle (so up to the mid-6th generation Hilux) for street usage in the US.
Yeah and that's the other horn of the dilemma facing would-be truck owners right now. If I don't want to take on a 2nd mortgage payment for a vehicle that can only barely perform the tasks required of it (and that poorly) my other option is to adopt all of the maintenance overhead and attendant reliability nightmares and problems with the parts aftermarket usually reserved for classic car projects. It's to the point now that if Edison Motors ever really gets their shit together I'm probably going to just break down and hybrid-swap a 70's era F150 and call it good but in the mean time I still need a work vehicle.
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#753Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds utterly ridiculous I agree but there's something to be said for 60+ years of muscle memory, otherwise olds rocketing motorhomes off of cliffs or augering into the side of the local walmart would feature more prominently in the local news. Quit picking on paw paw and keep the fight where it belongs: suburbanite pavement princesses must die.
There are also countries that reduce the time a license is valid starting at a certain age and that require a medical test for renewal at all ages. IIRC Spain does that.
Or you know you could just veer entirely off-topic and turn this into some kind of ageist food fight. That's an option too I suppose.
Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs
#754Besides the news being very concerning, this article is beautiful. NYT really delivered on this one.
Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs
#755Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can import a 25+ year old vehicle (so up to the mid-6th generation Hilux) for street usage in the US.
Yeah and that's the other horn of the dilemma facing would-be truck owners right now. If I don't want to take on a 2nd mortgage payment for a vehicle that can only barely perform the tasks required of it (and that poorly) my other option is to adopt all of the maintenance overhead and attendant reliability nightmares and problems with the parts aftermarket usually reserved for classic car projects. It's to the point…
I drove an ‘86 Alfa Romeo from 1995-2008 and 111k miles that I put on it. It broke down exactly once and that was a Bosch distributor that broke internally.
I wouldn’t think twice about driving a reasonably maintained 25-30 year old Toyota if that was the vehicle that best fit your use case.
I think once cars got to closed-loop EFI and electronic ignition (mid-80s), they got way more reliable and low maintenance.
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#756Earlier quoted context omitted.
> astronomical insurance payouts for accidental child death. There's no such thing. Standard automobile insurance policies cap injury liability in the low 5 figures. If you cause an accident and someone is seriously injured, there's a good chance you'll be personally liable for the majority of damages. Ditto property--you total someone's $100,000 Mercedes and you're likely going to be paying money out-of-pocket. If y…
Mandated minimum insurance limits are often that low, but it’s quite common to get six-figure property damage liability coverage and mid-six-figure overall liability coverage. (And umbrella policies above that, but someone who needs less than half-million in coverage can readily get that on an ordinary auto policy.)
The parent comment seemed to insinuate that if the risk of injury from taller front-ends was substantially greater, it would be noticeably apparent in insurance premiums. But because of policy limits, that's not necessarily the case, and becomes less likely to be the case as the cost of medical care and damages awards stemming from pertinent types of collisions grow, to the extent they grow faster than typical policy limits.
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I guess I'm old fashioned but I just can't imagine removing the cab to change my uncle's battery.
That's the point. You are a person who can work on a car/truck. Your uncle is a consumer.
Well, in his case he has full technical competency but he's missing a leg, but I agree with the point you're making.
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You're either grossly misinformed or you're being disingenuous; try installing 40" mud tires and a 6" lift kit on your truck in Australia and see what happens. In the U.S. it's just another brodozer and no cop will ever bat an eye.
Australia has plenty of crossovers which are the bulk of these deaths. Vehicles with 40s on them and a 6” lift are so rare in America they have no statistical significance in regard to accidents.
You wrote that Australia has plenty of brodozers. Crossovers are not brodozers, nor is it possible to operate a brodozer on public roads in Australia. Clearly, you're misinformed, if not entirely disingenuous, but your commitment to stay the course is admirable.
> Vehicles with 40s on them and a 6” lift are so rare in America they have no statistical significance in regard to accidents.
Do you have a source for this? Asking as someone who recently narrowly escaped death with a loved one as victims in a highway rollover crash caused by a dimwit operating a brodozer with 40" mud tires and a 6" lift in America.
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#759Earlier quoted context omitted.
Australia has plenty of crossovers which are the bulk of these deaths. Vehicles with 40s on them and a 6” lift are so rare in America they have no statistical significance in regard to accidents.
You wrote that Australia has plenty of brodozers. Crossovers are not brodozers, nor is it possible to operate a brodozer on public roads in Australia. Clearly, you're misinformed, if not entirely disingenuous, but your commitment to stay the course is admirable. > Vehicles with 40s on them and a 6” lift are so rare in America they have no statistical significance in regard to accidents. Do you have a source for this?…
I’m from Australia and lived there off and on. People can and do alter vehicles including lifting them. Your assertion you can’t drive with a 6” lift is flatly false, although 3” is more standard. Many people exceed the statutory limit and simply get away with it. You’re right that 40s are rare, but they’re also rare in America.
Vehicles with 40” wheels and 6” lift are extremely rare. I haven’t seen one in at least a year, but I’ve personally witnessed multiple accidents in the last year.
If you’d said something like 35s with a 3” you might have made your case a little better.
You can complain about this all you want, but the main problem in terms of vehicle shape is crossovers which are widely available in both America and Australia.
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#760Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are also countries that reduce the time a license is valid starting at a certain age and that require a medical test for renewal at all ages. IIRC Spain does that.
Or you know you could just veer entirely off-topic and turn this into some kind of ageist food fight. That's an option too I suppose.
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