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Everyone Is Wrong About AI Except Me

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Re: Everyone Is Wrong About AI Except Me

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Post by dasil003 »

DangitBobby wrote: post #6

> This is why warnings of disruption and doom will ring hollow with the public, you’re just promising adventure. The desires of the public don't enter into it. Like all matters of consequence, the people who control the economy and the government have decided this is happening and didn't take the opinion of the public into consideration.

You make it sound like a conspiracy but the article clearly argues that this is what the people want. If there really was that much centralized control then crypto would have been much bigger.

Re: Everyone Is Wrong About AI Except Me

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Post by palmotea »

Closi wrote: post #7

> Not only is the populace primed to treat artificial intelligence tools as living peers, they’ve been trained to hate or dismiss anyone who doesn’t This doesn’t meet my personal experience, but curious to hear if others see something different! The prevailing opinion in the UK at least seems to be that it’s some non-living magical tool assistant. As this assumption seems to be the basis of the article, I’m not sure…

I think the article makes a bit of a leap. The "priming" in the passage you're quoting is the depiction of robots in mass-media, cherry-picking the highly anthropomorphized hero-robots (e.g. WALL-E, Lt. Cmdr. Data, the good-guy Terminator in all the sequels).

I think it's an open question if that pre-LLM "priming" will survive actual contact with LLMs or if modern media depictions of robots will change in response.

Re: Everyone Is Wrong About AI Except Me

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Post by hogwasher »

thaanpaa wrote: post #4
MisterTea wrote: post #2

Book ad.

You can just skip the clearly marked ad bit and read the rest of it. Jason Pargin makes a lot of good content on different channels, and throws in a book plug here and there. Doesn't diminish the quality of his writing in any way.

The rest of it sure does read like "content", yep. There's no substance. It's short. And then there's another book ad.

It reads like someone used an LLM to cough up an article as an excuse to show the book ads. Though I don't actually think it's LLM-generated, mostly just because of the unnecessary ALL-CAPS in the middle, and the overuse of bold, italics, and underlining throughout.

Re: Everyone Is Wrong About AI Except Me

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Post by DangitBobby »

dasil003 wrote: post #11
DangitBobby wrote: post #6

> This is why warnings of disruption and doom will ring hollow with the public, you’re just promising adventure. The desires of the public don't enter into it. Like all matters of consequence, the people who control the economy and the government have decided this is happening and didn't take the opinion of the public into consideration.

You make it sound like a conspiracy but the article clearly argues that this is what the people want. If there really was that much centralized control then crypto would have been much bigger.

Conspiracy? It's just poor pattern recognition at this point to call it a conspiracy. I'm describing the world.

Yes the article argues that. Crypto was not that interesting to people who already have financial control.

Re: Everyone Is Wrong About AI Except Me

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Post by vintermann »

Interesting first point. I'm reminded of Blade Runner, which definitively fits in the "robots are people too, you monster!" genre ... But the source material was the exact opposite. Philip K. Dick went out of the way to rub in that even if the robots could move you to tears with their art (Luba Luft), be a reassuring authority figure for years (Garland), or even appear vulnerable and afraid (Pris Stratton), they are actually not people, but rather artifacts designed to fool you about what they are.

It's amazing how many people miss that. The SEO-spammed "grade saver" analysis practically says that the film is right - and from what I've seen, it's probably fair in that the teachers grading you might well think that too. Most misunderstood PKD book by far.

Re: Everyone Is Wrong About AI Except Me

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Post by boombapoom »

englens wrote: post #9

This post makes a critical error. It is talking about sci-fi AI. Artificial Consciousness. What we have is, while useful for many things (with proper constraints), just prediction engines that behave like intelligence. Generating a sentence when specifically asked to do so is a far cry from independently pondering over your existence then picking up the God of Thunder's hammer. If anything, the public has been primed…

and when AI agents start tasking llms to build better llms on their own that then turn into better agents that then task automated robots to design better hardware then manufacture it and configure it and run agents that start tasking llms to build better llms on their own that etc

at what point does it cease to become a simple mathematical function and start to become an "organism"?

Re: Everyone Is Wrong About AI Except Me

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Post by happytoexplain »

vends wrote: post #15
josefritzishere wrote: post #10

AI is truly the dumbest technology to emerge in my lifetime.

Hyperbole or just rage bait?

I think it's pretty obvious that genAI is a very smart technology in terms of the implementation, but a dumb technology in that enables devastatingly dumb outcomes. It also enables very smart outcomes, but they are overshadowed by the misery and visibility of the dumb outcomes. Like crypto, but with way more legitimate uses and a wider array of outcomes.

And by "outcome" I mean holistically - not the literal output of a model.

Re: Everyone Is Wrong About AI Except Me

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Post by soulofmischief »

vintermann wrote: post #16

Interesting first point. I'm reminded of Blade Runner, which definitively fits in the "robots are people too, you monster!" genre ... But the source material was the exact opposite. Philip K. Dick went out of the way to rub in that even if the robots could move you to tears with their art (Luba Luft), be a reassuring authority figure for years (Garland), or even appear vulnerable and afraid (Pris Stratton), they are…

When phrased this way, you're describing real people as well. We all have our various masks, secrets and lies.
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