Keep the Internet free and open • Hacker News Board

Re: Keep the Internet free and open

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Post by TeMPOraL » Mon, Dec 03, 2012, 1:03 PM UTC

casca wrote: post #5

While I generally support what is being proposed here, Google as a company has a strong interested in "keep[ing] the Internet free and open" for them to sell their products. That doesn't make it wrong, it just means that if this was raised by organisations that don't have a clear commercial interest then it might improve the visibility.

> it just means that if this was raised by organisations that don't have a clear commercial interest then it might improve the visibility.

It might improve the thrustworthness, but I doubt anyone else on the planet has more power to increase visibility than Google. Also always, in terms of visibility, big commercial entities > any non-profit, except maybe Wikipedia.

Re: Keep the Internet free and open

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Post by znowi » Mon, Dec 03, 2012, 3:59 PM UTC

kleinishere wrote: post #16

spoiledtechie wrote: post #2

Why is this the first I am hearing about this? On such a niche site like HN too? This should be all over the interwebs...

As a 25yo w/out a TV, this is the first I've heard of it as well. Given the likelihood of similarly positioned friends on my social networks, I shared the Economist article here ( http://www.economist.com/news/21567340-governments-squabble-... ) as a set up for the link to the petition, should people agree w/ Google's efforts.

Thank you. A very interesting article. A few points that caught my attention:

1. The US position on the ITU meting is to shot down various proposals and keep the current regulations intact.

2. The bulk of proposals are devised to lessen the influence of the US on the internet. E.g. transfer ICAAN duties to ITU, charge companies like Facebook and Google for outgoing traffic to national networks.

3. European Telecommunications Network Operators seek to outlaw net neutrality, quoting that without "fair" traffic control they're unable to develop their networks.

And in the end a little excerpt:

"A bigger danger is therefore deadlock. That might encourage a large pack of nations to set up their own internet regime, making communication with the rest of the world more costly and more complicated."

Which is already happening with China, Syria, Iran, and others.

Re: Keep the Internet free and open

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Post by Zolomon » Mon, Dec 03, 2012, 4:50 PM UTC

I don't understand. Isn't it better for this to get mainstream publicity rather than waving a hand over it saying that it won't change anything? My point is, shouldn't we encourage this so that it might get as much media coverage as possible - "All publicity is good publicity"? Can someone explain to me what it is I'm missing, please?