Luddites, once again Simple Simon thinking… Where does responsibility come in?
California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are several snarky knee-jerk reactions in the comments here, but state assemblies pass things all the time that ultimately fail to pass or get vetoed. Now the public will debate it, contact their state senators to give their opinions...it's all part of the process.
California constantly passes all kinds of weird, pointless, and burdensome gun laws. There are so many of them, and they're so poorly written, that no lawyer in the state who can confidently tell you what's legal and what isn't until a court chimes in. There's no meaningful process around any of that. The only thing that's different about this one is that it mentions a technology geeks care about. But I doubt that's…
America has shown it can’t handle guns in comparison, to its Western rapidly becoming not allies.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
The California legislature has a history of passing stupid stuff that later gets vetoed by Newsom. They tried to ban self-driving trucks last year.
That does not sound stupid, but safe? I giant truck that has no chance of stopping, controlled by a computer? Just build railways and then there are no issues, no fancy AI to control them.
It’s controlled by hired hands in the Philippines just like all those self driving GoogleRobo taxis.
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#194Why does California since Arnold left office feel the need to regulate above the average other states regulate? [in fairness gov Brown would veto some of the crazier ideas that arrived at his desk] Why do the pols feel like they have to pick fights in so many places? I doubt there’s a majority of voters who want this.
You think too highly of California voters. All they have to do if frame it as an unnecessary freedom that only conservatives and wackos want to keep and they will 100% support it. They see their state as a sort of oasis in the country and will do whatever it takes to keep the guns out. They really believe they’re just a few laws away from solving any issue a “reasonable” American could face.
Prop 13 oasis…
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#195Why does California since Arnold left office feel the need to regulate above the average other states regulate? [in fairness gov Brown would veto some of the crazier ideas that arrived at his desk] Why do the pols feel like they have to pick fights in so many places? I doubt there’s a majority of voters who want this.
The last time California Republicans had some power around 2009-12 they used it to manufacture crises and shut down the government. Since then voters have shut them out of power, including by passing 2010's Prop 25 which stripped the minority of the 2/3 veto they used to have.
The California Republicans (Pete Wilson) could not shut up demonizing American Hispanic people, recently arrived migrants and immigrants turned two generations into Democrats and statewide Republicans have been losing pretty much ever since, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona will be blue for the same reason going into the future and Texas will eventually swing.
The Republicans just can’t stop demonizing Hispanics. And don’t forget Oregon and Washington large fast growing Hispanic communities you can only demonize people so much.
And I’m not talking about Cubans.
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#196The future will belong to China. The U.S. has fallen.
Articles like this are just further proof.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
How long until people get police showing up at their door because they tried to print something harmless but gun-shaped (like a light gun for retro games, or Nerf-style toys) and were flagged by the AI 'firearm detector'?
If you want to have a voice in how the regulation is implemented, perhaps you should offer suggestions for how to implement it better. That's how it works in most industries; legislators propose to enact regulation X, manufacturers respond that X would have undesirable consequences and Y would be better, and then they discuss to figure out how to best balance all the competing interests. For reasons that aren't entir…
Of course the vast majority of people opposing this bill have zero interest in manufacturing firearms.
I 3D print as a hobby, mostly items related to retro computing/gaming and things like Gridfinity storage boxes.
But I value my privacy, and don't want governments scanning my models before I'm able to print them, just as I wouldn't want them scanning my code before I'm able to compile it (these days, code can potentially be a weapon of war, malware or drone flight controller code being more powerful than a plastic gun)
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#199> The required technology is not possible - 3D printers read code, not intent; they cannot tell what a shape is for. "Anthropic announces Project Disarm, a new model designed for 3d printer manufacturers to quickly infer whether the intent of an stl file is a weapon. The printer first submits the job to the cloud, and only after it's approved will it print." Not that I want this future, just that I can imagine it.
The cloud part is already the case with some printer brands. An AI running on the files is just a small step beyond
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#200> The required technology is not possible - 3D printers read code, not intent; they cannot tell what a shape is for. "Anthropic announces Project Disarm, a new model designed for 3d printer manufacturers to quickly infer whether the intent of an stl file is a weapon. The printer first submits the job to the cloud, and only after it's approved will it print." Not that I want this future, just that I can imagine it.
You missed the step where a DMV-clone of a state bureaucracy reviews the LLMs output before nixing the request a few weeks after the LLMs result.
I was thinking more along the lines of you pay someone with a state license an obscene amount of money to sign a piece of paper that basically says it's fine while also having no liability for being wrong. And then the DMV say that's not good enough and you have to go around again and pay them for more.
This is basically how civil engineering works for every project type that doesn't involve a pitched and (specifically "and" not "or") high stakes battle with gravity where you'd want to hire one on pure merit.