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Post by IshKebab »

lend000 wrote: post #52
test6554 wrote: post #44

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Back in the day... 2004-2005 facebook was amazing. Spread like wildfire, and lots of fun to use. Just you and your college friends, and their friends.

Even the original idea (if The Social Network is a trustworthy source) was copied -- Zuckerberg just has a complete lack of vision, but is clearly an intelligent operator with good business sense. Jagged intelligence, like an LLM.

I don't think you can say that the idea was "copied". It was a very obvious idea. I had the same idea before I heard of the Facebook. Do you know why it's called the face book?

You may as well say Bezos copied the idea of Amazon from book shops.

Really, he was in exactly the right place at exactly the right time.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by calgoo »

test6554 wrote: post #44
jazzpush2 wrote: post #4

Meta continuing to be the most shameless (and shameful to work for) company around. I can't think of a single product of theirs that hasn't made the world a markedly worse place. Even their recent hardware foray is managing to find a way to ruin trust in everyday interactions (guys filming drunk girls with Ray Bans, surveillance, etc.). Have several friends at the more 'thoughtful' frontier labs that bin meta applica…

Back in the day... 2004-2005 facebook was amazing. Spread like wildfire, and lots of fun to use. Just you and your college friends, and their friends.

It was US only as you had to have a .edu email address to join, which most universities around the world did not get as it was mostly a US thing. It took forever for them to open up to non-US universities.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by IshKebab »

Marsymars wrote: post #43
sillywalk wrote: post #40

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Nitpick: Facebook bought WhatsApp, it didn't make it.

They've also largely made WhatsApp worse.

Not yet they haven't. They've basically left it alone, with very minor UI/UX improvements.

They have very recently shown signs of making it worse (the AI button), but overall I've been surprised how careful they've been about doing it slowly. We've probably got another 5-10 years of it being great before they turn it to shit.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by sd9 »

calgoo wrote: post #160
vintermann wrote: post #146

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Without React we might not have had the JavaScript framework explosion, we'd all be programming in Angular JS. Maybe I'm exaggerating slightly, but I think we should judge frameworks compared to what other things existed at the time. It's, by the way, another example of how the only good thing Facebook did was deny Google complete dominance.

We would still have a framework of the week like we do today. There was a new framework weekly before React and there are frameworks of the week after React. React just gave us one more way of showing text on a screen.

> React just gave us one more way of showing text on a screen.

Well, yes, but... its popularity is not completely accidental. It's good - even by today's standards, but certainly by the standards of the time.

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by IshKebab »

delis-thumbs-7e wrote: post #106
mdavid626 wrote: post #104

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Crying in Germany with 60-85k average SW engineer salary.

Yeah, but you don’t have to have to pay SF mortgage prices, have a working public healthcare, no hordes of homeless on your doorstep etc. etc. One might argue that we get more for our sille euro wages. Also if we decide to leave the company, we are not completely f_ckd, since our families don ’t suddenly drop out of healthcare and other services.

Even though SF mortgage prices are high, they aren't that high. You're still very well off on those salaries.

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Post by Npovview »

georgemcbay wrote: post #102
thin_carapace wrote: post #99

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has zuckerberg done anything productive of his own accord? facebook was ripped off. most meta companies were acquired. it could be argued that propagandizing the entire world was productive relative to vested interests but that was done on the behest of those interests, not zuck himself. the only thing im aware of zuck actually spearheading was the metaverse, a conclusively unproductive pursuit costing tens of billio…

> has zuckerberg done anything productive of his own accord? It probably will surprise no one to learn his "next big thing" is a prediction market app. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/23/technology/meta-predictio... Hits the Meta product trifecta perfectly: * Derivative * Late to market * Harmful to society

Zuck is Equally Excited about all things, as noted by Demis. Zuck is that kid who wants his hand in all cookies jars.

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Post by LtWorf »

59nadir wrote: post #158
allarm wrote: post #156

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While I agree with your point I don't agree that open source is overrated. This movement is one of the greatest developments in modern history, and the fact that corporations have exploited it for their own gain should in no way diminish its significance.

Open Source is the company takeover of the good that Free Software represents, I don't really see it as a "movement" by people. It's set up precisely to exploit the people for free labor and look good doing it.

Just see how the open source initiative runs their "elections"… https://lwn.net/Articles/1014603/

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by user_of_the_wek »

inigyou wrote: post #67
jazzpush2 wrote: post #4

Meta continuing to be the most shameless (and shameful to work for) company around. I can't think of a single product of theirs that hasn't made the world a markedly worse place. Even their recent hardware foray is managing to find a way to ruin trust in everyday interactions (guys filming drunk girls with Ray Bans, surveillance, etc.). Have several friends at the more 'thoughtful' frontier labs that bin meta applica…

Facebook, for instance, made a lot of money for shareholders, which we know is the same thing as making the world a better place.

For a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for the shareholders…

Re: Meta Pauses Employee-Tracking Program Following Internal Data Leak

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

digitaltrees wrote: post #72
lend000 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even the original idea (if The Social Network is a trustworthy source) was copied -- Zuckerberg just has a complete lack of vision, but is clearly an intelligent operator with good business sense. Jagged intelligence, like an LLM.

Or he’s backed by the CIA?

Any resemblance to a voluntary mass surveillance and personalised sentiment profiling network is entirely accidental.
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