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Re: Steam Machine launches today

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I want to buy one just to raise the signal that Linux support is important. When these machines were announced I switched to Fedora as a daily driver on my high end gaming rig. It’s been awesome. I still have to go back to Windows for music production unfortunately. I may switch to Mac for that so I can completely abandon Windows. I run an optical HDMI cable from my office to my TV and get to play games and use Linux…

I also work in music production (for video games) and fully switched to Linux + FOSS about a year ago. I'd say it is a lot more doable if you make electronic styles of music. Harder if you make classical styles, as many of the big sample libraries don't support Linux yet. Just in case you're interested, here's a list of everything I use: https://johnoestmannmusic.com/tooling/

If you make electronic music using only virtual instruments and effects, it's ok. But if you play live, record live bands with lot's of mics and need to use physical hardware. Neither Mac nor Linux are an option.

Lot's of interface simply work best with Window.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#982
post #462

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My 15 year old Mac Mini has the same amount of RAM as this machine in 2026. I bought it used around 7-8 years ago for 200 EUR.

Mac Mini in 2011 had 8GB max?

I have an Late 2012 model, so it is 14 years, but the point still holds.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#983

I'm tempted even at this price. I've tried various iterations of a gaming HTPC over the years, and they've all been pretty miserable. That lack of any reasonable or stable CEC solution this whole time so far has honestly been an oversized anchor this whole time. And I think Valve is doing a bit of a disservice not advertising it more.

Does your tv not come with a remote?

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#984
post #536

Summary - Get a PS5 Pro.

As I was saying. With those specs, you might as well get a PS5 [0] even with a PS5 Pro it would still be cheaper than the Steam Machine. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45908208

But you are severely limited on what you can do on a console

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#985

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This is why Apple locks in supplier prices years in advance.

Computer hardware prices tend to go down over time so in general this is a pretty bad strategy. Of course in rare times like these it can pay off.

Do you think Apple locks in _current_ prices?

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#986

I know the price for PC parts is terrible these days, but $1049 for a 6-core 16GB RAM, with a 512GB SSD, and no controller, is a terrible value. For reference, the PS5 Pro has more than twice the number GPU CUs, an 8-core CPU, a 2TB SSD, a controller, and costs $899.

Well, and you pay 120$/year for the privilege to play games online on that PS5. That is one of the reasons SONY can subsidize the PS5 unit price and sell under cost. Valve is not in that position, because people would buy it as office PC replacement.

Why would anyone buy a $1000 office PC when you can buy a $300 office PC?

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#987

For the inevitable minisforum machines comparisons - it's not as bad for Valve as it seems. You can't just add a dedicated GPU to a cheap miniPC with an integrated graphics- power delivery and airflow will have to be different, and you may be surprised to find out that even the cheapest mini PCs with dedicated graphics aren't significantly cheaper than a Steam machine (if at all). And then my personal experience with…

>which, judging by Steam Deck, is quite fair I love my Steam Deck but let's not forget that it took a solid 2-3 years for it to really become a somewhat turnkey, stable experience. They shipped it in a near-beta state. Flipping between gaming/desktop mode induced a fail state probably 30% of the time until a year ago, docking to TV's can still be very frustrating (aspect ratio and latency are almost always wonky unti…

> flipping between gaming/desktop mode induced a fail state probably 30% of the time until a year ago

That doesn't reflect my experience at all.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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>which, judging by Steam Deck, is quite fair I love my Steam Deck but let's not forget that it took a solid 2-3 years for it to really become a somewhat turnkey, stable experience. They shipped it in a near-beta state. Flipping between gaming/desktop mode induced a fail state probably 30% of the time until a year ago, docking to TV's can still be very frustrating (aspect ratio and latency are almost always wonky unti…

> flipping between gaming/desktop mode induced a fail state probably 30% of the time until a year ago That doesn't reflect my experience at all.

How long have you had a steam deck?

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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You are lucky. A lot of the games I play with friends use kernel level anticheat crap that doesn't work on Linux

But you're playing with friends, right? So you don't actually need anticheat at all. Or are you playing with friends and random assholes from the internet? I'm curious because if a game requires anticheat that means there's an intention that I'd be playing with people who would cheat if they could. And I don't want to have anything to do with people like that. I don't really understand why anyone wants to spend their…

That's assuming the game you play allows custom servers. That's pretty rare in 2026

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#990
post #817
post #315

“starting with the SteamOS 3.8 release, you can put together your own Steam Machine using whatever PC parts you want” That’s great.

But, will it properly support NVIDIA GPUs? That’s was the biggest pain point for years.

Yep, Valve is working with Nvidia to create an installer with the proprietary Nvidia drivers bundled in.

FWIW, Nvidia's Wayland experience has been very usable with post-550-Series drivers. If you have an Nvidia GPU that supports more recent drivers, chances are that it will work like a charm.

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