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Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by growt »

crazygringo wrote: post #74

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

I wouldn't mind if similar _common_ words are mixed up. But the current state of the iOS keyboard and also gBoard is that it sometimes just makes really unhinged suggestions (at least in my native german). Words I never used before and that I didn't even know existed. I think a small AI layer on top would probably fix that, just the likelihood of next words multiplied somehow with what I possible could have swiped.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by indigo945 »

growt wrote: post #151
crazygringo wrote: post #74

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

I wouldn't mind if similar _common_ words are mixed up. But the current state of the iOS keyboard and also gBoard is that it sometimes just makes really unhinged suggestions (at least in my native german). Words I never used before and that I didn't even know existed. I think a small AI layer on top would probably fix that, just the likelihood of next words multiplied somehow with what I possible could have swiped.

In German, it's also extremely annoying that even common compound words will not be suggested. Google Keyboard has somewhat improved here, but FUTO Keyboard still drops the ball on this completely.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by FireInsight »

JdeBP wrote: post #85
jaggederest wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blast from the past here for you, probably not relevant any more, but a cool reimagining of gesture interfaces: https://www.the8pen.com/ Edit: apparently there's a modern successor? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=inc.flide.vi8

If, as there, one swipe gesture per letter is allowable, rather than a gesture encompassing a whole word, then things like Thumb-Key become options. * https://github.com/dessalines/thumb-key It has a similar sort of ' It doesn't have to have 26 keys on something the size and shape of a mobile 'phone. ' thinking as 8vim has, whilst raising a good ' You know 'phones worked fine with a 3 by 4 grid for 60 years, ne? ' po…

Thumb-Key is awesome and I can't live without it. Clearflow sounds promising too, but I have to be able to write my,, repeated symbols and >:) smiley faces with the same speed and finesse as words (not having to thing about it at all).

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by puttycat »

growt wrote: post #151
crazygringo wrote: post #74

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

I wouldn't mind if similar _common_ words are mixed up. But the current state of the iOS keyboard and also gBoard is that it sometimes just makes really unhinged suggestions (at least in my native german). Words I never used before and that I didn't even know existed. I think a small AI layer on top would probably fix that, just the likelihood of next words multiplied somehow with what I possible could have swiped.

My guess is that an AI layer already present _is_ the reason you're seeing these unhinged suggestions. Earlier generation iOS keyboards were much more accurate and reasonable.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by puttycat »

vulkoingim wrote: post #148

That's neat! Would love to try it, but am also on iOS :/ With the risk of sounding like a broken record - what are people using on iOS? I've been using `SwiftKey` for a while as it has dictionaries for languages that the native keyboard doesn't have. But I would love to switch to something else, as M$ has been shoving AI features on it that I am definitely not interested in. So far in this thread I've seen Grammarly…

What do you mean? iOS has a native swift option.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by ComodoHacker »

defenestrated wrote: post #132
kstenerud wrote: post #114

What I really want is a swipe model that can tune to multiple languages simultaneously when a keyboard layout can support it (English + German, German + French, etc). I rarely need more than 2 languages simultaneously, but the "switching between 2 languages" point is painful.

Trilingual here. Gboard on my pixel 10 pro does support swipe type while code switching between multiple languages. Works reasonably well. Accuracy is a bit lower for words that are collisions across languages

What is "code switching"?

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#158

Post by Squarex »

tmach32 wrote: post #115

For us sad iOS people, what's your favorite swiping keyboard? I just use the stock Apple one because custom keyboards can still be a little buggy (eg not loading occasionally).

For a long time apple keyboard did not support my language (czech), I would use gboard. And yes, it is still slightly better than the Apple one, but the switching is buggy and the problem is on the apple side.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by arnorhs »

I'm curious to see how it deals with dual languages - ie. not switching between them, but using two languages in the same sentence like the google keyboard supports out of the box.

my biggest issue is that i make up a lot of words as i type and the google dictionary for icelandic is .. well it can never be fully complete because of the way the language works, so dictionary words are always a mess.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by cloogshicer »

puttycat wrote: post #156
vulkoingim wrote: post #148

That's neat! Would love to try it, but am also on iOS :/ With the risk of sounding like a broken record - what are people using on iOS? I've been using `SwiftKey` for a while as it has dictionaries for languages that the native keyboard doesn't have. But I would love to switch to something else, as M$ has been shoving AI features on it that I am definitely not interested in. So far in this thread I've seen Grammarly…

What do you mean? iOS has a native swift option.

Native iOS is significantly worse than SwiftKey and doesn't support multiple languages without having to switch the keyboard constantly. In SwiftKey you can mix languages.

I'd also be very interested in SwiftKey alternatives, since MS already almost killed it once.

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