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FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by resonious »

nulld3v wrote: post #78
crazygringo wrote: post #74

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

FUTO Swipe supports ClearFlow, which is exactly what you are talking about, a keyboard layout optimized for swiping: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/ https://github.com/futo-org/futo-keyboard-layouts/issues/163

This is interesting. Though it doesn't seem like it'd translate well to a physical keyboard, leaving me with two different layouts to work with.

Maybe I'm mistaken though. Are there any physical clearflow keyboards? Are they any good, or does clearflow really only work well with swipe?

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by TranquilMarmot »

h4kunamata wrote: post #87

FUTO is terrible! I run GOS and have tried it, you spend more time deleting works than actually using it. I was forced to install Google GBoard instead and revoke its network access. Gboard swipe typing works flawlessly, FUTO still an Alpha project.

Seems like this is a new swipe model, though, so it should be more comparable. I also had to switch back to GBoard on GrapheneOS since I was spending more time fixing typos than actually typing with FUTO but I'm willing to give it another shot.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by functionmouse »

nulld3v wrote: post #78
crazygringo wrote: post #74

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

FUTO Swipe supports ClearFlow, which is exactly what you are talking about, a keyboard layout optimized for swiping: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/ https://github.com/futo-org/futo-keyboard-layouts/issues/163

interesting, tying this. thanks

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#94

Post by copper-float »

h4kunamata wrote: post #87

FUTO is terrible! I run GOS and have tried it, you spend more time deleting works than actually using it. I was forced to install Google GBoard instead and revoke its network access. Gboard swipe typing works flawlessly, FUTO still an Alpha project.

The early iterations of swipe were very inaccurate, yes. But the newest swipe release mentioned here is much more mature.

It's not perfect, but it's practically on par with GBoard aside from a few blips here and there. It's enough for me to get rid of GBoard for good, and not consider reinstalling it.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Post by joshuat »

resonious wrote: post #91
nulld3v wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FUTO Swipe supports ClearFlow, which is exactly what you are talking about, a keyboard layout optimized for swiping: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/ https://github.com/futo-org/futo-keyboard-layouts/issues/163

This is interesting. Though it doesn't seem like it'd translate well to a physical keyboard, leaving me with two different layouts to work with. Maybe I'm mistaken though. Are there any physical clearflow keyboards? Are they any good, or does clearflow really only work well with swipe?

Using a physical clearflow keyboard sounds like a nightmare - they're just designed for very different input models

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#96

Post by _thisdot »

resonious wrote: post #91
nulld3v wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FUTO Swipe supports ClearFlow, which is exactly what you are talking about, a keyboard layout optimized for swiping: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/ https://github.com/futo-org/futo-keyboard-layouts/issues/163

This is interesting. Though it doesn't seem like it'd translate well to a physical keyboard, leaving me with two different layouts to work with. Maybe I'm mistaken though. Are there any physical clearflow keyboards? Are they any good, or does clearflow really only work well with swipe?

The thumb typing muscle memory does not translate to finger typing at all. Most Dvorak or Colemak users are comfortable using QWERTY on their phones. Clearflow really only works well with swipe.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#97

Post by copper-float »

jordand wrote: post #32

I used the FUTO keyboard for a few months but ditched it as the word suggestions were either odd or random (one example: I'd write 'Jordan' and it would always suggest 'Peterson' as the next word), and I'd got a weirdly passive aggressive prompt saying I should really purchase a license. Went back to the de-Googled Android keyboard in GrapheneOS

Just tried typing Jordan on mine, and my suggestions were "on", "is", and the Jordanian flag. So I'm pretty sure you had to have typed the words "Jordan Peterson" before for it to make that association.

The donation prompt can permanently disabled with two taps, so I'm not sure why that'd be a reason to abandon it. It's a complete non-issue.

"You've been using FUTO keyboard for X days. If you find this app useful, please consider paying to support future development.

FUTO is dedicated to making good software that doesn't abuse you. This app will never serve ads or collect your personal data."

I don't mean to be rude here, but this is an extremely bland, mild message. There's nothing passive aggressive about it in any way. What do you find aggressive about this?

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#98

Post by CalebJohn »

Vingdoloras wrote: post #38

After experiencing Nintype on iOS many years ago, I can't use any other swipe keyboard anymore. I'm stuck using the stock keyboard for typing, and sometimes (rarely) swiping a word or two when I din't have two hands available. Swiping (with one finger) when holding my phone with both hands just feels unnatural and sluggish. I wish Apple had just bought/sherlocked Nintype and integrated it into the stock keyboard.

Looks like they are working on multi-finger swipe for the keyboard, the library seems to support it [0].

> The library also supports recognizing two-finger simultaneous swipe input through the SwipeEngine::recognize_multi method.

[0]: https://gitlab.futo.org/keyboard/swipe-library#inputs

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#99

Post by Multicomp »

skeledrew wrote: post #22

I've been using HeliBoard for a while now, but IIRC the swipe library it uses is from Google (have to install it separately to comply with license). Wonder how this stacks up.

I am a heliboard user myself and im only just trying this new keyboard out but at least right now it feels faster and has all the goodies I want in a soft keyboard.

1. super responsive

2. arrow keys!! why this is impossible is beyond me

3. easy access to text editor and undo redo via the long pressing of the enter button

4. easy resizing and im using a floating mode so it's all near my thumb and no awkward bends, just my phone being too heavy for my pinky because phones are massive these days

5. offline voice is comparable at a glance to the offline voice input app I was using with heliboard. that's with their biggest ugliest English model and my phone is from 2022 at the newest.

6. have I mentioned how performance is great on this app yet? pleasantly surprised.

y'all do you but I am keeping this FUTO keyboard.

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