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FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

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Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#71
I really want to switch to FUTO keyboard but there are a few UX issues that prevent me. For example, SwiftKey lets you swipe left to delete a word, which is very useful, but FUTO doesnt, you have to start from the Backspace button.

Or, SwiftKey will allow you to change a typed word's case by pressing shift, but FUTO just does nothing in that case.

I really hope these get fixed, or I can just issue PRs myself for them.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, honestly. I love open source as much as the next guy, but I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. The license feels pretty reasonable. The source code is fully available, none of the features are paywalled. They only prohibit you from taking their code and reselling it. If you take a look at the Play Store, there are thousands of instances where open source projects are lazily renamed and so…

The license doesn't prevent those leeches from succeeding. They will republish your app, whether it is fully proprietary or licensed under the GPLv3, and neither Google nor Apple will respond to takedown requests for apps. We get many reports of this behavior in an Android developer community I help moderate, it's pretty obvious there are a few known actors doing this with hundreds of apps, and the stores don't care.…

Yeah, it's pretty pathetic on Google and Apple's part.

It might be not a foolproof solution, but I think the license is better than nothing. Then you have a legal precedent that you can cite when you file a lawsuit against these rats.

Most of these people doing this probably aren't in the same country. But whatever. It's better than nothing.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#74
I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc.

So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words, I want a keyboard layout designed to minimize word overlap/ambiguity when swiping.

It doesn't even necessarily have to have 26 keys, e.g. maybe there could be one key overloaded for v/w/x/z (and you long-press it if you ever want to type a single letter). On the other hand, maybe there need to be separate keys for 'e' and 'ee', or a special key for "double the previous letter".

Because I love swiping, but all my problems with it come from the fact that the QWERTY layout is far from ideal for it. I am 100% willing to learn a new layout if anyone will develop an optimal one for English so that swiping has a 99.9% accuracy rate instead of what currently feels more like 90% or 95%.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#76

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

Blast from the past here for you, probably not relevant any more, but a cool reimagining of gesture interfaces:

https://www.the8pen.com/

Edit: apparently there's a modern successor? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=inc.flide.vi8

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#77

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

I have been wanting this for a while. I currently use dvorak with the split mode that happens when the phone is horizontal for good typing speed.

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#78

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

FUTO Swipe supports ClearFlow, which is exactly what you are talking about, a keyboard layout optimized for swiping: https://clearflowkeyboard.github.io/

https://github.com/futo-org/futo-keyboard-layouts/issues/163

Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model

#79

I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…

Blast from the past here for you, probably not relevant any more, but a cool reimagining of gesture interfaces: https://www.the8pen.com/ Edit: apparently there's a modern successor? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=inc.flide.vi8

I really liked this in the day (and i just played with the version you linked and can still remember all the key patterns - I'm typing this comment with it now).

But it just can't touch swiping for speed. Frankly, the keyboard I miss most is the T9 predictive text from my old school pre smart phone era.

Nothing has come close to the same expressiveness and speed while being usable completely blind, only by feel.

I do feel like mobile keyboards have stagnated in a bad spot, though.

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