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Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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If this weren’t Deutsche Bahn, I’d say it’s a cyber attack. Given that this is Deutsche Bahn, though, it may just as well be a maintenance issue.

Probably someone forgot to renew the TLS certificate.

My 100 bucks are on an expired certificate in the trust chain. the same kind of issue that took down almost all Verifone payment terminals in Germany in 2022.

Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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It's a GSM-R issue. See Tagesschau (German): https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/gesellschaft/deutsche-bahn-...

>This special mobile communication standard is designed to make communication fail-safe Mmm, nope.

If nothing works, eveything is safe, no?

Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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There was also a very peculiar train crash in the UK just a few days ago. A train hit a stationary train. That shouldn't really happen in this day and age. Sabotage was the first thing that came to my mind. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gy60gg6k5o

Maybe. OP isn't saying it's necessarily malicious interference though.

The UK buys most of their trains from Deutsche Bahn (German Rail) and just brands them differently.

British person living in Berlin.

Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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Duplicate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48651552

and submitted by the same user sva_ https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=sva_

The other article is only one sentence long. I guess the OP posted it and later found this that is a better source. (Un)luckily both reached the front page. Usually dang/tomhow will make a cleanup soon to avoid duplication and keep the discussion in a single thread.

Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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It's a GSM-R issue. See Tagesschau (German): https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/gesellschaft/deutsche-bahn-...

>This special mobile communication standard is designed to make communication fail-safe Mmm, nope.

It did fail safe though?

Interference led to the network stopping, not trains just racing towards each other due to bogus line authorities. That is, by definition, fail-safe

Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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If this weren’t Deutsche Bahn, I’d say it’s a cyber attack. Given that this is Deutsche Bahn, though, it may just as well be a maintenance issue.

Same thing happened in Poland and it was confirmed that Russians did it.

> it was confirmed that Russians did it.

>> It’s believed the perpetrators of the attack were supporters of the Russian war effort, as the stop signals were also joined by broadcasts of the Russian national anthem and a speech from Russian President Vladimir Putin. The attacks have some significance to the invasion of Ukraine, as Poland has been a hub for crucial weapons deliveries supporting the defence of Ukraine.

Yes, yes, it's a code of honour not to use the someone' else national anthem, sure. Especially if you need to bolster the population support for some ongoing cause.

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