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Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by watwut »

tdiff wrote: post #97
mentalgear wrote: post #16

This is really sickening - if North Korea or any other less connected country did this, you would quickly see their national (tech) companies being sanctioned by the west. I never understood how a country like Israel, given the history of its own tribe, can themselves become so gruesome and have a hugely state-supported private spy-tech sector that supports the worst autocrates in the world as long as the money flows…

First thing coming into mind is the number of companies and individuals blocking Russians in the beginning of the war before any sanctions out of virtue signalling.

Virtue signaling that consist of blocking Russia is double virtue. You do the good thing and you motivate others to do the good thing too.

We need more of that.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by ebbi »

pvaldes wrote: post #105

Were are the UN sanctions on Israel? Still none? UN can go f*k themselves then. Needing so many years to get the courage to say the world genocide, where everybody had seen for years Israel turning little children into little flesh chunks, slowly unfurl in horrid technicolor in world TV, is just another part of the problem. UN is useless.

At this point, we're all useless.

The circumstances of little Hind Rajab's death plays on my mind every single day, and haunts me. The fact something as brazen and blatant as that could happen, and the world did nothing.

Truly a stain on our generation.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#133

Post by ebbi »

tdiff wrote: post #97
mentalgear wrote: post #16

This is really sickening - if North Korea or any other less connected country did this, you would quickly see their national (tech) companies being sanctioned by the west. I never understood how a country like Israel, given the history of its own tribe, can themselves become so gruesome and have a hugely state-supported private spy-tech sector that supports the worst autocrates in the world as long as the money flows…

First thing coming into mind is the number of companies and individuals blocking Russians in the beginning of the war before any sanctions out of virtue signalling.

Yep, Xero published a blog post outlining their stance on Russia and outlining their sanctions (it was literally less than a handful of accounts for them):

https://blog.xero.com/news-events/our-position-on-ukraine-an...

But they didn't do anything for Israel. Actually, at the height of the genocide, they decided to invest in an Israeli company.

slow claps

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#134

Post by yapadog »

throw310822 wrote: post #124
Qem wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> highest entity that could apply leverage What is the lowest entity that can apply leverage? Regardless of what US or UN does or doesn't, you can start boycotting today.

Not completely true, if you're in the US there are laws to punish boycott of Israel.

Where are you required to declare your purchases?

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#135

Post by [deleted] »

xg15 wrote: post #118
the_origami_fox wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Yes, and that seems to be the rationale of western politicians as well, essentially, "we have to protect Israel to protect the Jewish people, without it, the Holocaust would risk repeating" That makes sense as a "subjective experience" (if there is something like the subjective experience of a people), but it fails the reality check for me. Yes, Israel is the center of Jewish life today (New York coming next apparent…

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#136

Post by pvaldes »

throw358643 wrote: post #93
throwaway9917 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure I understand how Arab or Muslim countries might vote against Israel reflexively, but it's not just them, it's almost the entire world. Go look at this list of Israel related General Assembly resolutions in 2025: https://unwatch.org/2025-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-... The typical vote is like 142-6. The Israeli claim is that almost the entire world are a bunch of anti-Semites that hate them for who they a…

From your link: “From 2015 through 2024, the UN General Assembly has adopted 173 resolutions against Israel and 80 against other countries.” Do you seriously think that throughout this time Israel has been that much worse than all other countries? There are many other indications that the UN is biased about Israel: Only one country has its own permanent agenda Item 7 in the UN. Palestinian refugees have their own org…

> Not a single country in the world opened its doors to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust.

Not one except USA.

And Sweden, Dominican Republic, Denmark, France, Luxembourg, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Poland, Bolivia, Spain, the Soviets and all the other countries that allowed safe crossing. Even Italy hid Jews... so what history books do you studied?.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by throw478322 »

xg15 wrote: post #129
throw478322 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are missing the very massive religious and ideological groups who are on the other side and see in the destruction of Israel a divine plan or a fulfilment of some secular ideal. This blinkered view will reasonably leave you baffled and with a distorted world model, and a perception that people are stupid when they are actually seeing the bigger picture.

No question those exist, but this ignores basic human psychology: If my whole family was wiped out in an airstrike, and then I have a whole population saying "yup, that's exactly how things should be!", of course I would start to hate them.

I don’t think you understood. You pointed out support from parts of two Abrahamic faiths for Israel, while ignoring the other major Abrahamic faith, whose opposition to Israel is older and in much greater numbers and zealotry than the evangelical one is for Israel, and has existed long before Israel even had an air force.

They are not family and often not even the same race. It’s a religious thing, but you only find two of the three religious alignments irrational, when these two are, at least in part, just reacting in response to the other.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

#139

Post by Schmerika »

ebbi wrote: post #132
pvaldes wrote: post #105

Were are the UN sanctions on Israel? Still none? UN can go f*k themselves then. Needing so many years to get the courage to say the world genocide, where everybody had seen for years Israel turning little children into little flesh chunks, slowly unfurl in horrid technicolor in world TV, is just another part of the problem. UN is useless.

At this point, we're all useless. The circumstances of little Hind Rajab's death plays on my mind every single day, and haunts me. The fact something as brazen and blatant as that could happen, and the world did nothing. Truly a stain on our generation.

Hind Rajab. Sidra Hassouna. Reem and Khaled.

The premie babies at Al-Nasr hospital.

Over a hundred bombed hospitals.

The Irish president's sister kidnapped and abused.

Assassinating negotiation teams and scientists.

Murders of whole families who dared to speak out to the world.

Running over a teenager with their hands zip-tied behind their backs with Caterpillars®.

The paramedic massacre in Rafah.

The hundreds of journalists. The tens of thousands of children. The doctors raped to death.

The people who never get mentioned in these lists of atrocities, buried in mass graves with their children, hands tied.

The people dying from n-order effects, slowly, painfully, barely noticed or counted.

...

And little/no sanctions from our civilized Western democracies. (Except on the people calling it out, who can't use a credit card or bank any more, or even receive donations.)

We are far worse than useless. The stain is set for all time.

A reminder for any Americans reading this: 98.15% of 2024 voters chose a Presidential candidate that supported the above.

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