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Re: Mistral OCR 4

#91

Way too expensive. Google vision OCR (which they failed to compare against), is $1.50 per 1k pages. Vs $4 from Mistral.

It’s not the same service. Google’s vision OCR is pure text extraction, not layout. Pretty sure Google’s doc AI services that can identify headers vs body text is $10 per 1k pages.

Re: Mistral OCR 4

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post #77

I’ve always thought the US Postal Service is such a technological marvel. They somehow manage to identify and route billions of pieces of mail and I have to imagine their tech is significantly more primitive than this. Not only that but US addresses are absurdly non-standardized, you can often write the same address multiple ways and have it deliver to the same location. I’m sure there’s plenty of published knowledge…

related https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-33581277

Re: Mistral OCR 4

#93
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately Europeans are terrible customers for making money. They ask a lot of questions and they're very stingy with their wallets. Americans on the other hand ...

You're american?

He's a prince of whales.

Re: Mistral OCR 4

#94

A tangential observation: the video on the linked page wasn't what I expected. I thought Mistral was a european AI company, so I didnt expect the video to be filmed in San Francisco featuring three people who don't seem to be european. I'm not against them being a global organization, that's wonderful. I was just surprised. I expected a parisian office and european accents.

To the best of my knowledge, most of the founding team started their careers in the US ( meta,etc..) and their primary investors are US VCs. In that regard, they smartly benefit on both side : US funding and European brains

Uhm... isnt mistral mostly funded by ASML? A dutch company?

Re: Mistral OCR 4

#95

Tested with Malayalam, normal handwriting got accurate but a slight different style got detected as kannada. Have samples if required, which sarvam got done with 99% accuracy leaving one text error.

I'm curious what's been your experience with Sarvam outside of Indic languages - Indian English (perhaps mixed with romanised indic verbiage) and also documents with complex layouts (figures, tables, etc). I've been quite curious but hesitant about Indian offerings, particularly because they seem to be priced a little higher than what I would think they should be (I could be wrong and simply be misrembering though).

Sarvam is exceptionally tuned for indic languages we have more than 20 languages and it perform well for all in ocr. Iam yet to test with other languages. No any models come close for indic languages like sarvam. I saw they recently dropped price per page to 0.5 inr which is much cheaper. The only downside is the zip file based delivery.

Re: Mistral OCR 4

#96
post #91

Way too expensive. Google vision OCR (which they failed to compare against), is $1.50 per 1k pages. Vs $4 from Mistral.

It’s not the same service. Google’s vision OCR is pure text extraction, not layout. Pretty sure Google’s doc AI services that can identify headers vs body text is $10 per 1k pages.

That’s true, though worth beating a dead horse to say that traditional OCR won’t hallucinate sentences, perform unwanted translation, or change the meaning of whole paragraphs to something more “appropriate”.

Re: Mistral OCR 4

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post #77

I’ve always thought the US Postal Service is such a technological marvel. They somehow manage to identify and route billions of pieces of mail and I have to imagine their tech is significantly more primitive than this. Not only that but US addresses are absurdly non-standardized, you can often write the same address multiple ways and have it deliver to the same location. I’m sure there’s plenty of published knowledge…

Well I guess a lot of humans are involved as well, so that helps

Re: Mistral OCR 4

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post #77

I’ve always thought the US Postal Service is such a technological marvel. They somehow manage to identify and route billions of pieces of mail and I have to imagine their tech is significantly more primitive than this. Not only that but US addresses are absurdly non-standardized, you can often write the same address multiple ways and have it deliver to the same location. I’m sure there’s plenty of published knowledge…

Also the census, literally hundreds of millions of hand-written forms that have needed to be processed. Which was the foundation of MNIST!

Re: Mistral OCR 4

#99

A tangential observation: the video on the linked page wasn't what I expected. I thought Mistral was a european AI company, so I didnt expect the video to be filmed in San Francisco featuring three people who don't seem to be european. I'm not against them being a global organization, that's wonderful. I was just surprised. I expected a parisian office and european accents.

Unfortunately Europeans are terrible customers for making money. They ask a lot of questions and they're very stingy with their wallets. Americans on the other hand ...

This is absolutely not why there are no leading AI, other important silicon tech, or relevant space companies in Europe. To some degree they exist but are all B-Tier in comparison to US/China. You'd be surprised just how lose money can sit in Europe, I guess. Just not the way it needs to be for this.

The financial structure of the EU is nowhere close to enabling these capital devouring endeavors based on lofty future bets. Operating at a loss for years and years is simply unacceptable in European markets and the EU is not authoritarian enough to randomly divert capital based on political orders like China because the EU doesn't try to be a superpower controlling a hemisphere.

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