I suspect that blood vitamin D is mainly a marker for how much outdoor exercise people are getting, and that it is the exercise rather than the D which is causal.
My life changed after I got tested for vit D and started talking supplements. I was severely deficient. I am now sufficient and everything changed for me.
The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
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Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
But then why do we see improvements in people that get vitamin D + K2 supplements and not exercise?
As the article mentions, we pretty much don't see improvements with supplementation.
> the balance of evidence tips pretty clearly in the direction that people with low-ish levels would be wise to supplement
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#23I suspect that blood vitamin D is mainly a marker for how much outdoor exercise people are getting, and that it is the exercise rather than the D which is causal.
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#24This is a refreshingly balanced and honest analysis of Vitamin D studies. The strongest evidence for Vitamin D is in people who are severely deficient. Bumping up to a normal range can provide some improvements. The health influencers started noticing that the Vitamin D studies coming out weren't matching their original hype for Vitamin D, so many pivoted to trying to make claims that most people are severely deficie…
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#25This is a refreshingly balanced and honest analysis of Vitamin D studies. The strongest evidence for Vitamin D is in people who are severely deficient. Bumping up to a normal range can provide some improvements. The health influencers started noticing that the Vitamin D studies coming out weren't matching their original hype for Vitamin D, so many pivoted to trying to make claims that most people are severely deficie…
On a slight tangent, if people are unaware, you can pay for and get just about any lab test without a prescription in the United States.
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#26The very premise that loading up your body with "excess" vitamins beyond what you need is already pretty fraught. Building a house without enough lumber can lead to long term deficiency - but loading up a construction site with more materials than are needed shouldn't automatically be assumed to be good.
The reality is that the modern diet has already solved so many common nutrient deficiency diseases (pellagra and goiters were a shockingly common diseases 100 years ago) that maxing out on vitamin intake has become more of something like a speculative hobby than anything else.
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#27Has anyone done a RCT of D3+K2? K2 seems to be important in the absorption of D3. Another aspect that bothers me with these studies is that we’re simply supplementing the vitamin D, seemingly without measuring the change in blood levels. I took 2000IU (+K2) a day for many years in between testing my blood levels and still had <30ng/ml and had to go up to 5000IU/day. I’d like to see some further study.
Switched to 5000iu +K2 in MCT oil, -- 8 months later I'm at 64ng/ml.
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
But then why do we see improvements in people that get vitamin D + K2 supplements and not exercise?
As the article mentions, we pretty much don't see improvements with supplementation.
Re: The worthlessness of Vitamin D is mildly exaggerated
#29For example, I've been supplementing with nicotinamide riboside for a few years now. I stop occasionally and when I do stiff and sore hands and knees return and I get more headaches.
I'd love to know if I'm deluding myself (placebo effect?) or there's good science that backs up my experience.
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#30I never heard that in Germany. I only heard that if you use certain medications like cortisone that vitamin d could be problematic. Most doctors will give vitamin d supplements when prescribing cortisone, at least in Germany.