I solved a similar issue with the help of AI. I doubt I would have ever solved it with the help of a PCP, because of really subtle nuances. It’s been almost a year and my symptoms have basically disappeared. AI helped me figure out my symptoms were related to histamine issues. This was really hard to track down. I started to tune into chicken and eggs causing me issues, but (1) I wasn’t actually allergic (2) chicken…
I solved my mystery fatigue with AI
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#22I got an odd fatigue myself and went to the doctor for blood tests but nothing obvious came up. I'm guessing it's a post viral thing but there aren't really tests and it seems to be gradually getting better over a few years. Science could do with better understanding of that stuff.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
For simple things, if an AI (combined with blood tests) can do what the doctor can do, then technically I don't need the doctor. I also don't need the friction that comes in working with a doctor, considering the AI is close to frictionless.
> technically I don't need the doctor That’s the goal for doctors too. It would be great to get simple things off the system. But I think the more realistic intermediate step is a trained person cheaper than a doctor - nurse, PA, etc - aided by AI. The current generation of agentic AI doesn’t seem to be there yet and is too agreeable from RL. “you’re probably fine sleep it off combined with: drink more water, eat hea…
See https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/this-state-is-testing...
Title: This state is testing out AI doctors—and actual doctors aren’t happy about it (Wall Street Journal)
New York state residents get the worst of it with the state bending over backwards to take away the people's rights.
Also, let's not confuse independence with AI. Independence is where I can do some extra bloodwork and diagnostics to satisfy my well-being. I don't need an AI limiting what I investigate either.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
> technically I don't need the doctor That’s the goal for doctors too. It would be great to get simple things off the system. But I think the more realistic intermediate step is a trained person cheaper than a doctor - nurse, PA, etc - aided by AI. The current generation of agentic AI doesn’t seem to be there yet and is too agreeable from RL. “you’re probably fine sleep it off combined with: drink more water, eat hea…
Is it really the goal for doctors? I don't believe it. They run an exclusive protectionist racket. See https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/this-state-is-testing... Title: This state is testing out AI doctors—and actual doctors aren’t happy about it (Wall Street Journal) New York state residents get the worst of it with the state bending over backwards to take away the people's rights. Also, let's not confuse indep…
2. Doctors who depend on revenue from forced visits to renew prescriptions are grifters and not close to a majority. The profession obviously isn’t perfect but the vast majority of physicians I know would be happy to lighten their rosters.
With that said it can’t be a system that creates problems and dumps them back on physicians to fix, hence #1
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it really the goal for doctors? I don't believe it. They run an exclusive protectionist racket. See https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/this-state-is-testing... Title: This state is testing out AI doctors—and actual doctors aren’t happy about it (Wall Street Journal) New York state residents get the worst of it with the state bending over backwards to take away the people's rights. Also, let's not confuse indep…
1. Having concerns over unvetted AI is not the same thing as running an exclusive protectionist racket. 2. Doctors who depend on revenue from forced visits to renew prescriptions are grifters and not close to a majority. The profession obviously isn’t perfect but the vast majority of physicians I know would be happy to lighten their rosters. With that said it can’t be a system that creates problems and dumps them bac…
Ultimately, it should be about personal freedom. This is not a contagious disease we're dealing with here.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Having concerns over unvetted AI is not the same thing as running an exclusive protectionist racket. 2. Doctors who depend on revenue from forced visits to renew prescriptions are grifters and not close to a majority. The profession obviously isn’t perfect but the vast majority of physicians I know would be happy to lighten their rosters. With that said it can’t be a system that creates problems and dumps them bac…
Point #1 is nonsense because the ratio of problems eliminated to those created will be easily be 99:1. I estimate this ratio is closer to 50:50 for human doctors. Ultimately, it should be about personal freedom. This is not a contagious disease we're dealing with here.
> Ultimately, it should be about personal freedom. This is not a contagious disease we're dealing with here.
The state regulates health and medical devices for a reason. Look at what’s happening with all of these prescription mill apps these days which are still theoretically overseen by a licensed healthcare professional - plenty of medical errors and harm in the name of increasing access (a good thing, when done well). We’ll see criminal investigations within a year.
Re: I solved my mystery fatigue with AI
#27I solved a similar issue with the help of AI. I doubt I would have ever solved it with the help of a PCP, because of really subtle nuances. It’s been almost a year and my symptoms have basically disappeared. AI helped me figure out my symptoms were related to histamine issues. This was really hard to track down. I started to tune into chicken and eggs causing me issues, but (1) I wasn’t actually allergic (2) chicken…
Do you mind me asking what kind of symptoms you were experiencing?
Chronically:
* I my energy levels were dropping. * I had terrible brain fog. * My moods were less stable and I was often very irritable. I felt way less resilient to stress. * My joints were constantly hurting * GI symptoms comparable to IBS
Acutely, I would get flare ups between 2 to 48 hours after eating food that were essentially a mix of flu and allergic reaction symptoms (despite not having allergies to these foods). I felt feverish, dizzy, light-headed, joint pain, head aches, diarrhea, nausea. There were a few times that it knocked me out for 24+ hours.
Three's also this "bucket" theory that I resonate with. Symptoms can fluctuate according to how "full" your bucket is. If you have an empty bucket, you might be able to tolerate whatever triggers with limited reaction. If you have filled bucket and overflow it, your symptoms cascade horrendously.
This part actually made self-diagnosis extremely hard because the same food wouldn't consistently trigger issues. This is on top of triggers already feeling a bit random. Pizza, for example, is wildly hit-or-miss by brand. Despite it all being essentially the same ingredients, some of it, I tolerate incredibly well. Some of it, I flare up terribly. Even more confusing, the cheap/low quality places (like Little Ceasars) sit perfectly fine with me, but many "fresh" or "high quality" ones completely crash me.