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The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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there’s another thing that started to get quite popular in the late 2000s… smartphones

Then surely Europe shares that trends and shows growth in pedestrian death. But that isn't the case at all, maybe Europeans are immune to smartphones: https://road-safety.transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download...

Sedan hits you, you get hit in the knees and fall on the hood. Brodozer hits you, it strikes your chest/head, pushes you over and drives over you.

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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In the USA, an order of magnitude more people on foot are killed each year by people driving cars and trucks than are killed in mass shootings. [0][1]

It is a massive problem that receives a disproportionate amount of attention.

[0] https://www.cdc.gov/pedestrian-bike-safety/about/pedestrian-... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_...

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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there’s another thing that started to get quite popular in the late 2000s… smartphones

that's called a hypothesis. now go author a study to test it, like the study being reported on. hypotheses without evidence don't stand up to hypotheses that have been tested.

And how did this study rule out smartphones?

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While their conclusion is probably correct, I would have liked to seen the number of fatalities normalized by population, miles driven, number of pedestrian increase, speed limit change etc

I find any conclusion that doesn't focus on TEXTING to be suspect.

By focusing on the wrong things (especially the endless caterwauling about "speeding"), people are letting legislators off the hook for abetting murder. Texting while driving should be a DUI-level offense, with the same penalties. But year after year, they refuse to do anything about it.

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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While their conclusion is probably correct, I would have liked to seen the number of fatalities normalized by population, miles driven, number of pedestrian increase, speed limit change etc

This study didn’t nearly enough to disambiguate for widespread phone use while driving, which IMO is the biggest factor.

Self driving AI is the answer.

Re: The deadly rise of giant trucks and SUVs

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there’s another thing that started to get quite popular in the late 2000s… smartphones

Surely someone somewhere will bring to bear a solution that will disable all but voice calls on smartphones while the smartphone is paired to the car and the car is moving but allow for the devices of minors in a moving vehicle to still function like smartphones. They might also use interior cameras to ascertain who is driving and which device should be neutered but for emergency communication.

Yes, people would be annoyed at first but they also will experience a sigh of relief that they don't have to reply to a boss's or co-worker's text in the middle of a commute or running deliveries, etc.

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