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Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#11

Post by jbverschoor » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 12:54 PM UTC

vim with mouse frustrates the hell out of me.

Just give me basic vi, or a complete editor

Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#12

Post by setopt » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 12:58 PM UTC

jbverschoor wrote: post #11

vim with mouse frustrates the hell out of me. Just give me basic vi, or a complete editor

`set compatible`?

Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#13

Post by herodoturtle » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 1:07 PM UTC

senthil_rajasek wrote: post #8

A 2007 article from sourceforge.net and it's not even throwback Thursday. "Gunnar Ritter 2007-11-29"

It's been years since I heard the term "Throwback Thursday", funny that reading it here felt like a throwback in its own right ^_^

Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#14

Post by herodoturtle » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 1:09 PM UTC

atsaloli wrote: post #9

fragmede wrote: post #5

:x is a vim feature, so this wouldn't support it, so you'll have to use :wq instead.

or ZZ to save and exit

28 years of vi and TIL about ZZ.

Thanks friend! ^_^

Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#15

Post by JdeBP » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 1:10 PM UTC

fragmede wrote: post #5

:x is a vim feature, so this wouldn't support it, so you'll have to use :wq instead.

Incorrect.

:x is a vi feature, that was introduced by Mary Ann Horton to actual Joy+Horton vi in February 1980.

* https://code.illumos.org/plugins/gitiles/illumos-gate/+/refs...

Ritter's vi is derived from Joy+Horton vi. Illumos has the original.

Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#16

Post by kps » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 1:14 PM UTC

nosioptar wrote: post #10

GaryBluto wrote: post #2

Tangentially related, I wish more websites and blogs looked like this now. It's elegant and modern but simple.

Breaks Firefox's reader mode. Looks like dog shit on mobile. I agree that this general style is good, just without some of this page's fuckups.

Chrome's too, but why? It's just plain HTML.

Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#17

Post by mghackerlady » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 1:14 PM UTC

herodoturtle wrote: post #14

atsaloli wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

or ZZ to save and exit

28 years of vi and TIL about ZZ. Thanks friend! ^_^

I just learnt it the other day, as well. Granted, it was from chapter 1 of "Learning the vi and vim Text Editors" but shhh

Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#18

Post by mghackerlady » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 1:18 PM UTC

I wish elvis was still around. I don't want everything vim has but I like syntax highlighting and other conveniences

Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#19

Post by chorizo » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 1:23 PM UTC

kps wrote: post #16

nosioptar wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Breaks Firefox's reader mode. Looks like dog shit on mobile. I agree that this general style is good, just without some of this page's fuckups.

Chrome's too, but why ? It's just plain HTML.

Safari reader mode on mobile works great. But then again, this is a site where you should not need it.

Re: The Traditional Vi (2007)

#20

Post by JdeBP » Tue, Jun 23, 2026, 1:29 PM UTC

I was just talking about a fun and largely forgotten feature of Joy+Horton vi elsewhere.

* https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/116793159030149624

You can see it here in Ritter vi on lines 83 et seq. of ex_vis.h . vi actually has three flavours of its 'open' mode, for cursor addressable video terminals, non-cursor addressable video terminals, and actual paper terminals.

There's an as-yet unfilled niche for the retrocomputeristas with genuine ADM-3s or (as someone pointed out) TI Silent 703s and suchlike to do a YouTube video showing Joy+Horton vi in its 3 open modes.