As a european, it's funny to read those stories about Fable and not being able to check for myself. It looks like being a kid watching other kids playing with nicer toys.
Will It Mythos?
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#122As I posted in another comment, I found Fable to be substantially more powerful than any previous model. However, this isn't just an ungrounded opinion - I uploaded my full session transcript and code created working on a very complex implementation, so people can judge for themselves, if they're interested: https://tossrock.substack.com/p/36-hours-with-fable
You write to the AI as if it were a person. From my point of view it looks like a fair bit of extra typing and extra tokens. Is there a reason you include things like your emotional response and use a very chatty tone? Do you find this seems to alter responses?
I do the same, and it's mostly because I use one type of human communication to both communicate with people and to provide inputs to llms - and I'd rather not have to "mode-switch" between the two, so keeping same style of mannerism is easier to manage as it lets me focus on my requests instead of thinking how to sound more robotic to save tokens.
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#123In my brief experience, the difference between fable and opus is largely in persistence, not global intelligence like you might expect. Fable just... goes the extra mile, sometimes in a scary way.
Hard disagree. Opus reports to me like a student. Fable reported to me like a colleague (researcher). It genuinely seemed to pick up on nuance that the other models just don't, even when I tell them explicitly. It's been really frustrating that neither Codex nor Opus can make targetted edits to Fable's code without screwing something subtle up. For context, this is for computational geometry work, so your mileage may…
Funny, I find Codex to still be better at Coding than Opus or Fable.
I A/B tested on a whole array of prompts between Codex and Fable, and Fable almost always found that Codex had produced a better plan and covered more edge cases than it did itself.
For every problem I gave the exact same prompt to both models, then I had each analyze the other's output. For roughly 80% of the prompts, Fable acknowledged that Codex's output was an improvement on its own, for 20% the converse situation occurred.
There was one egregious case where Fable suggested deploying code which would have resulted in a production bug, an edge-case which Codex identified and proposed a fix.
Note: this is all for optimized Rust code designed to be highly CPU and memory efficient.
I do prefer Anthropic's models for any tasks with front-end/design work needed. But I don't do much of that kind of work usually.
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#124As a european, it's funny to read those stories about Fable and not being able to check for myself. It looks like being a kid watching other kids playing with nicer toys.
If it makes you feel any better, nobody is playing with the toys, now.
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#125As a european, it's funny to read those stories about Fable and not being able to check for myself. It looks like being a kid watching other kids playing with nicer toys.
If it makes you feel any better, nobody is playing with the toys, now.
ah, you're right, I thought it was disabled only for "export", but the PR explicitly says everybody:
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#126I've read opinions that this a speculation to raise the Anthropic's value. They are known to say "horrific things" and personification of the AI they are delivering. It sometimes sounds unprofessional even. This line of communication might have even influenced the courts in the case of copyright violation ("it is not copyright violation if a person learned something and it knows it and thinks of it"). However algorit…
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#127I miss Fable. Will it ever be back? As a non-US citizen living in Africa i fear that i will have to wait for an equivalent non-US model.
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#128The leaderboard sorting is very misleading, gpt-5.5-pro only found 2 while mimo-v2.5-pro found 4.5 out of 9 cases.
Mentioned directly under the table:
> Note GPT 5.5 Pro is at the top of the leaderboard only because it blew through $100 budget after only completing four cases, so 2/4 is 50%. And, a couple of other results, both Qwen models, are skewed upward in the detect % ranking because of failure to complete all cases.
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#129I miss Fable. Will it ever be back? As a non-US citizen living in Africa i fear that i will have to wait for an equivalent non-US model.
I think you'll find other labs are racing to get you something while Anthropic works through their issues. So, yes, give it a few months, you'll have something equivalent from someone somewhere in the world.
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