I think the steam machine is more important as a benchmark for 3rd parties developing their own Steam OS based systems. Although I am sure Valve would be happier if it was popular on its own merits too.
Steam Machine launches today
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#872It is interesting to know how it compares in terms of performance to 500$ Mac Mini with Crossover?
Of course Crossover support is worse than Proton, so it will not be viable alternative in real gaming scenarios. But Proton is made by Crossover team.
And Apple hardware is 2x cheaper.
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#873Is it supporting ReactOS as rumored?
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#874I want to buy one just to raise the signal that Linux support is important. When these machines were announced I switched to Fedora as a daily driver on my high end gaming rig. It’s been awesome. I still have to go back to Windows for music production unfortunately. I may switch to Mac for that so I can completely abandon Windows. I run an optical HDMI cable from my office to my TV and get to play games and use Linux…
The Steam Machines raises the bar on PC Console gaming. Because: - GPUs don't support HDMI CEC by default, nor does the operating system offer it - Suspend mode on motherboards often suck - Many game controllers with 2.4Ghz don't properly import USB Wake events. Or the motherboard didn't implement it properly I see the Steam Machine as an expensive open source concept car that moves the needle for us PC gamers.
Hasn't all this been mostly solved on the Nvidia Shield Pro for ~7 years now?
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#875Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are lucky. A lot of the games I play with friends use kernel level anticheat crap that doesn't work on Linux
I work in AAA; more people using Linux means we'll actually get buy-in for working with Linux as a platform. Right now Producers and HQ don't want to support it because "theres no money there" and they're bolstered by a crew of developers who have only ever touched Windows who will reinforce the notion that Windows is all you need (because they've sunk their entire career into the platform). I remember bringing this…
How much do you rely on Steam hardware survey? I am doing my part reporting my Linux usage.
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#876So SteamOS is just arch linux? I guess there are important differences?
SteamOS is highly customized and managed by Valve. It doesn't have the Arch repos or pacman. Updates to the OS come from Valve in large releases rather than per package. All apps installed either come through Steam or Flatpak. So it's Arch in the same way Android could be called Linux.
so the available software is a bit limited then
I can still customize and configure things, or not really?
does that mean I can't customize the OS, like shortcuts?
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#877Earlier quoted context omitted.
For people who are already throwing money at Valve on a monthly subscription and might otherwise have bought something from Sony or Microsoft, or more likely, will also buy something from Sony or Microsoft. The consumerist mindset accepts this device.
There's no monthly sub for Steam.
All games are free then?
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#878I saw a bunch of reviews (written and YouTube). It seems that the Valve development team behind this product was disappointed by the final cost. If this machine was built 2-3 years ago, can anyone estimate how much cheaper the cost would be? I assume this biggest price hikes have come from memory (RAM) and storage (NVMe).
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#879The bus is not PCIe between the system and the GPU?
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#880I am pleased to see hardware not being locked down as a selling point: > Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? It feels very commonsense that you should be able to run whatever you want on the computer that you have purchased, but it is surprisingly uncommon.
You write this on the forum where often in apple-based topics folks here defend locked down system ie on phones for themselves as something actually superior. Its often paid PR or folks to deep in the topic to have objective opinions (or simply employees/shareholders) but still, I've had that talk few times and downvotes were flying left and right.