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Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

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Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can also find it on popular torrent sites, as information wants to be free. (I would have bought it if it had been on Amazon, but, well.) 1dc2e5b6f0d5036a182e85ab34da839d15eaf1ed cypherpunks.epub 5d546aaa83aebd43a2342f6dc737d271a34ff684 cypherpunks.mobi ccaf1c45fc31633c9728dcd2cd4545b55a27be7c cypherpunks.pdf

Wait...so your two options are buy from Amazon or pirate? Amazon is basically the worst corporation on the face of the earth. Supporting a small publisher -- especially a small publisher willing to publish Julian Assange, books about Bradley Manning, and books about Wikileaks, is basically a decent thing to do.

Why do you say Amazon the worst corporation on the face of the earth? I can honestly think of nothing that would justify that statement.

Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe his point is that taken to its logical conclusion, states are able to do all of the things that they do because there is inevitably the consequence of violence for non-compliance. All of your examples result in violence for disobedience: destroying infrastructure, breaking laws, ignoring subpeonas. A core idea is that property ownership requires the threat of violence to work; don't pay your rent but don't…

Regardless of whether a state exists or not, the only meaningful definition of "property" includes a threat of violence. It is not meaningful to say "this is mine" without the implied threat of violence against those who would take it - whether carried out by the individual themselves or outsourced to the local emperor. Without property there is not commerce, there is not agriculture, no civil growth and development…

There is a difference between defensive violence and offensive violence. For example, do you believe that you own your body? I do, and I would defend myself if necessary. I would only use violence against those that are threatening me though. If you hold that you own your body, then by extension you own the output of the things you create with your body.

There has been much thought on this line of philosophy, it's called the non-aggression principle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle)

Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

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post #13

I think this is very relevant here - interview with the NSA whistleblower, William Binney, on how NSA is storing every post people are making online, so they (and FBI) can use it later: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuET0kpHoyM No wonder NSA and FBI want warrantless access to private companies by lobbying for new laws like CISPA, and trying to build backdoors in services like Facebook, Skype, Twitter etc. They want…

"But their #1 priority should always, always, be respecting the Constitution, and not trying to skirt around it. And I think they've forgotten all about that long ago." That's the irony of the whole American security apparatus. They are in place, nominally, in order to protect American citizens rights to live with the freedoms inherently granted to them by the Constitution.

This doesn't detract from your point, but I thought I should correct something just because there are a lot of overseas readers here who might not be very familiar with the US Constitution:

The Constitution does not grant freedoms to citizens. Instead, it delegates specific powers from the citizens to the federal government.

Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

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In maybe five to ten years, the internet will effectively split in two. There will be major, commercial service providers such as Facebook-type social media hubs, major news sites but there will also be an invisible internet that is everything internet used to be, and in addition to that encrypted, anonymous, and untraceable.

How it shows most prominently at the moment is file sharing. Setting the endless copyright debates aside, what happens is that governments and large companies want to interfere with the privacy of what citizens are doing with their own bits. They say copying is theft while citizens consider twiddling their own bits a private matter that's none of anyone else's business. The citizens don't understand that while it's de facto legal to form a sneakernet—the actual legal status probably varies from place to place but nobody has ever been sued for sneakernet filesharing because nobody else never knows about it—it's illegal to form a filesharing network over the internet.

I don't promote or demote filesharing per se: it's just the cutting edge where the future trends will show years before they land elsewhere and that's what it makes it so interesting. A marginal slice of file sharing has already moved to anonymous darknets but in a few years and after a few more bad copyright/freedom-of-speech incidents with bad publicity, there will eventually be a breakthrough and the whole filesharing activity will go underground en masse.

When the masses go for it, the capacity and availability of invisible darknets will raise in orders of magnitude. That means there will be other providers in the anonymous networks as well, websites and services. There already are some, from anonymous wikis, anonymous project pages to anonymous forums but currently those are playgrounds. That is not so in ten years: there will be a major "bazaar" going on underground. While everything is anonymous and untraceable, everything is also secure. An online bank could very well operate in the anonymous network because the traffic is already cryptographically signed, and users can enjoy strong authentication if they wish to or remain a pair of anonymous public/private keys.

At that point the traditional grasp of internet control is lost.

The institutions governing the internet and the copyright and whatnot are faced with a big dilemma: do they dare to ban and make illegal anything that's not specifically permitted on the internet and if so, how to go about it in actuality. Do they lobby for laws that only allow ISPs to let citizens connect to a http proxy that validates all traffic to be "approved"? Do they extend the charges for any use of the invisible internet that is deemed illegal, to cover all users of the invisible internet?

We're still in the shadowdancing mode but the stakes are going higher, and in at most ten years the problem of control versus anonymity will have come out in the public.

We better know what we want, at that point.

Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

#145
post #18

I agree with the sentiment, but Assange's prose is a little dense. Maybe it's OK for his target audience, as I assume the layman won't be reading cryptome.org. What we really need is a champion to explain in relatable, plain English why encryption is essential even for mom and dad, and to explain it in a more mainstream venue. I think a big reason why people don't encrypt mail, etc., is because: 1) they don't know wh…

I wonder how many people who think it's important think that it's important enough to merit actually being said champion.

Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

#146

I feel that we have to understand that using technology to fight legal battle never is the right answer. As soon as the government sees a particular technology as a hinder, threat or even an inconvenience, they can legislate against it. This holds true for encryption, VPNs and all other technological "saviours" that internet evangelists keep ranting about. The truth is that the only reasonable thing to do is to becom…

Yes and no. Sure, we have to fight bad laws. Here's the thing: Encryption is legal now, but what good is it if we don't use it?

We need to build and use technologies that respect human rights and we need to fight to make sure that they remain legal. One without the other is nothing. There is no point fighting to keep something legal if you don't have the technology and infrastructure to use it.

Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

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My initial thoughts are, I don't know if this is the right way to combat widespread warrantless search and seizure, although maybe it is. I'm not sold either way.

Let's say there were some massive breech of probable cause before billions of people used the internet every day. Maybe some king is issuing multitudinous search warrants to go and seize all postal mail correspondence within some large sector of the population. I'm thinking of something "old tymey" here.

Okay. Well, it seems to me, the 18th century version of Julian Assange would essentially argue that people need to start getting good at writing in and decoding cryptograms. What we really need is the 21st century version of James Otis.

I know, it's a very, very unfair analogy. But it explains my point. If this stuff that William Binney is talking about is really going on, wouldn't a legal or a socio-political (not sure if I'm even using that term correctly) response be more lasting and effective than having everybody start writing letters in the form of a NY Times crossword puzzle?

Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

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Does it seem strange to anyone that the whole book isn't available for free? This doesn't appear to be intended as mere entertainment. This is supposed to be about maintaining freedom . . . it seems like a case where you'd want to get your ideas out and save the day over earning money from it.

Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

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post #23

First, recall that states are systems through which coercive force flows. Factions within a state may compete for support, leading to democratic surface phenomena, but the underpinnings of states are the systematic application, and avoidance, of violence. Land ownership, property, rents, dividends, taxation, court fines, censorship, copyrights and trademarks are all enforced by the threatened application of state vio…

Your argument is a non sequitur: states are necessary, therefore states are not systems through which coercive force flows. If you want to argue that states are necessary, fine. But call a spade a spade. Can you imagine a state that doesn't wield violence? That's what a state is . The lack of clarity on this issue leads to a lot of bad conclusions. When we argue that the state should solve any particular problem, we…

take it back to harvard, boys. this place is for conversin'.

Re: Julian Assange: Cryptographic Call to Arms

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post #144

In maybe five to ten years, the internet will effectively split in two. There will be major, commercial service providers such as Facebook-type social media hubs, major news sites but there will also be an invisible internet that is everything internet used to be, and in addition to that encrypted, anonymous, and untraceable. How it shows most prominently at the moment is file sharing. Setting the endless copyright d…

> When the masses go for it, the capacity and availability of invisible darknets will raise in orders of magnitude.

this is predicated on the assumption that providers are not strangled by their balls by the authorities (who is in turn strangled by the balls by lobbiests/companies/vested interests).

If you could run your own routes with private equipment (such as a mesh like wireless network?), instead of having to sign up to an isp, then i see this as more viable a future.

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