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Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by moffkalast »

soerxpso wrote: post #819
tmoertel wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is a promising solution to scalping. Previously, if you had only small numbers of consoles available at launch, scalpers and their bots would claim a large share of them. With Valve's new policy, that share is reduced to s/g , where s is the number of verified Steam accounts controlled by scalpers and g is the number of legit gamer accounts. Since s is likely to be much less than g , s/g is close to zero,…

I would be careful granting that s is less than g. There are lots of incentives other than scalping for people to create extra illegitimate accounts on Steam, and one individual can often control hundreds of bots, whereas a legitimate user almost never has more than one or two accounts.

Even with a hundred or a thousand bots per person you'd need a hell of a lot of scalpers to dwarf Steam's ~130 million active human users.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by moffkalast »

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #201
sudobash1 wrote: post #103

I am pleased to see hardware not being locked down as a selling point: > Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? It feels very commonsense that you should be able to run whatever you want on the computer that you have purchased, but it is surprisingly uncommon.

That is why the frame will be the most interesting to the people on HN. A VR PC you can do whatever u want with.

At a price point of 10k if we extrapolate to its release.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by moffkalast »

blahblaher wrote: post #816
xinayder wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to LTT the original price was in the $800 range, but thanks to Sam Altman it increased to what we saw today.

And Amodei, and Satya, and Pichai.., don't forget about them.

Well none of them actually went out and pretended to buy the entire world's supply of silicon. So no, Altman gets most of the blame personally in this case and the silicon fabs for taking the fake order like absolute tictacs. Demand would be high otherwise too, but that's what got everyone panic buying and resulted in this mess.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by musha68k »

With those unfortunate specs a used PS5 + Steam Deck OLED is the better deal to me.

HDR on that screen is just something to behold and UHD-BD drive is the cherry on top.

https://github.com/streetpea/chiaki-ng

I could see myself buying the undeniably beautiful GabenCube at spec if the price were at or only slightly above SW2/PS5 level; as an additional device to play the outlier game that is exclusive to "PC" and Steam Deck / Macbook Pro not delivering enough oomph for it to run satisfactorily.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by TonyStr »

frollogaston wrote: post #804
gonzalohm wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are lucky. A lot of the games I play with friends use kernel level anticheat crap that doesn't work on Linux

I've only ever played a couple of games with kernel-level anticheat. The rest have some other reason they don't work in Linux.

I'm curious which ones you had trouble with? I switched last week, and have been testing all the games in my library. I'm quite impressed with how all of them just work with zero or little tinkering. The only games I haven't been able to play are the ones with anti cheat that explicitly deny Linux.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by scott01 »

legitster wrote: post #213

I'm tempted even at this price. I've tried various iterations of a gaming HTPC over the years, and they've all been pretty miserable. That lack of any reasonable or stable CEC solution this whole time so far has honestly been an oversized anchor this whole time. And I think Valve is doing a bit of a disservice not advertising it more.

Yep, and I feel many commenters in this thread are comparing value propositions only in terms of specs. I’ve built a number of Mini-ITX cases, from 5L to 20L, and they are a pain to work with and maintain. In some cases it’s impossible to make a reasonable filtered airflow, so dust builds up very fast, and a teardown to do clean up is pretty annoying. Steam Machine looks very straightforward to maintain. And it’s also tiny and quiet.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by whazor »

prhn wrote: post #96

I want to buy one just to raise the signal that Linux support is important. When these machines were announced I switched to Fedora as a daily driver on my high end gaming rig. It’s been awesome. I still have to go back to Windows for music production unfortunately. I may switch to Mac for that so I can completely abandon Windows. I run an optical HDMI cable from my office to my TV and get to play games and use Linux…

The Steam Machines raises the bar on PC Console gaming.

Because:

- GPUs don't support HDMI CEC by default, nor does the operating system offer it

- Suspend mode on motherboards often suck

- Many game controllers with 2.4Ghz don't properly import USB Wake events. Or the motherboard didn't implement it properly

I see the Steam Machine as an expensive open source concept car that moves the needle for us PC gamers.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by IshKebab »

bigyabai wrote: post #703
pseudosavant wrote: post #700

I think this put this all in perspective for me. If Microsoft came out with this exact hardware (with Windows but still open and you could load SteamOS on it), at this price point, people mock Microsoft to death about how this product is a joke.

> with Windows but still open and you could load SteamOS on it You're describing Every Computer Ever.

Every x86 PC ever. That's not true for ARM machines or Mac. Or the myriad of other closed platforms that are computers.
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