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OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Re: OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Post by flanked-evergl »

mentalgear wrote: post #19

No one commenting on the fact that oAI is releasing a Claude Mythos-class model - with apparent 0 restrictions or concerns by the US government, while Anthropic's (their competitor) model has been pulled weeks prior by the administration for 'security' reasons. It certainly has nothing to do with openAI's co-founders donating to the current administrations election fund, are actively supporting the DoW war efforts of…

Do you think that Anthropic's models would have been pulled if they did not say for months how their models is basically going to break the whole internet and that governments should most definitely restrict AI? I doubt it.

The problem is, though, given Anthropic have said all of that, they really have very little grounds for objecting to the US government's intervention here. Everything that the government would have to prove to justify their intervention has already been freely admitted by Anthropic, even though the "admission" was maybe more intended as a marketing ploy.

Re: OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Post by netdur »

mentalgear wrote: post #19

No one commenting on the fact that oAI is releasing a Claude Mythos-class model - with apparent 0 restrictions or concerns by the US government, while Anthropic's (their competitor) model has been pulled weeks prior by the administration for 'security' reasons. It certainly has nothing to do with openAI's co-founders donating to the current administrations election fund, are actively supporting the DoW war efforts of…

Why do you want to tax openai on anthropic's fud mistake?

Re: OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Post by anon373839 »

taspeotis wrote: post #11

I don't know what the solution to this is, but I find it somewhat unfair that I pay money to Anthropic, and I pay money to OpenAI, and neither of them will let me use their best models for securing the software I work on. Admittedly Opus 4.8 xhigh does a good job, but are my customers not entitled to have more security from a Fable/Mythos or GPT-5.5-Cyber audit over the codebase? Or I guess the inverse question: why…

The problem is even worse than that. OpenAI and Anthropic have your source code and superior knowledge of its vulnerabilities. All you can do is hope that they won't one day use it against you.

Re: OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Post by ddxv »

taspeotis wrote: post #11

I don't know what the solution to this is, but I find it somewhat unfair that I pay money to Anthropic, and I pay money to OpenAI, and neither of them will let me use their best models for securing the software I work on. Admittedly Opus 4.8 xhigh does a good job, but are my customers not entitled to have more security from a Fable/Mythos or GPT-5.5-Cyber audit over the codebase? Or I guess the inverse question: why…

I think using open weight models will solve this. I believe they are nearly caught up and much of the gains are in the harnesses or properly orchestration of subqueries. (I'm no expert, just my opinion).

When the open weight models catch up, if they don't get lobbied and banned by OpenAi and Anthropic, then you'll be able to use them to properly secure your software.

Re: OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Post by raincole »

ralphington wrote: post #14
raincole wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amusing that what Anthropic does is basically: 1. Browse the internet 2. See what people hate about OpenAI 3. Adopt the worse version of it 4. Profit? Sam Altman fearmongered about AI alignment - we fearmonger harder. OpenAI is CloseAI now - we are even less open. OpenAI is going to IPO - we IPO first.

I don't have a horse in the race, but these comments are remarkably toxic. This reminds me of the RTFM epidemic on early Stack overflow.

It's toxic to call out big companies fearmongering about how their AI is too smart to be accessable? And it's somehow comparable to telling newbies asking question to RTFM?

Really?

Re: OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Post by postalcoder »

mentalgear wrote: post #19

No one commenting on the fact that oAI is releasing a Claude Mythos-class model - with apparent 0 restrictions or concerns by the US government, while Anthropic's (their competitor) model has been pulled weeks prior by the administration for 'security' reasons. It certainly has nothing to do with openAI's co-founders donating to the current administrations election fund, are actively supporting the DoW war efforts of…

Man, some of you will invent conspiracy theories to justify some deeply cynical fiction. OAI has been more proactive about doing customer KYC than A\.

OpenAI, four months ago, started to require users to verify their identity if they flagged their activities on frontier models (gpt-5.3-codex and higher) as risky. Their filters were originally quite coarse and it resulted in a ton of normal tasks being flagged. There was a lot of drama about it at the time, but it seems like things have smoothed out.

KYC goes back to a year or two ago. API access to gpt-image-1 required it.

https://openai.com/index/trusted-access-for-cyber/

Re: OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Post by theplumber »

Ok so why I don’t have access to this if I already pay for the max plan? Should I pay a security researcher to run codex on my code? Is this how it is supposed to work? Let’s hope we get some real cyber models that people can actually use from the Chinese without the stupid application forms.

Re: OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Post by theplumber »

anon373839 wrote: post #23
taspeotis wrote: post #11

I don't know what the solution to this is, but I find it somewhat unfair that I pay money to Anthropic, and I pay money to OpenAI, and neither of them will let me use their best models for securing the software I work on. Admittedly Opus 4.8 xhigh does a good job, but are my customers not entitled to have more security from a Fable/Mythos or GPT-5.5-Cyber audit over the codebase? Or I guess the inverse question: why…

The problem is even worse than that. OpenAI and Anthropic have your source code and superior knowledge of its vulnerabilities. All you can do is hope that they won't one day use it against you.

But they will! Or the government or the xyz agency !

Re: OpenAI DayBreak – GPT-5.5-Cyber

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Post by theplumber »

mentalgear wrote: post #19

No one commenting on the fact that oAI is releasing a Claude Mythos-class model - with apparent 0 restrictions or concerns by the US government, while Anthropic's (their competitor) model has been pulled weeks prior by the administration for 'security' reasons. It certainly has nothing to do with openAI's co-founders donating to the current administrations election fund, are actively supporting the DoW war efforts of…

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