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Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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Post by drdaeman »

cognitiveinline wrote: post #262
drdaeman wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just because we can do something faster or automate parts of it doesn't guarantee demand will go up It's not guaranteed, but why wouldn't it? It's digital entertainment and art, and the market is not saturated, there's still tons of ideas unexplored. If more people would have spare money they can spend on digital purchases instead of making ends meet - I'm pretty sure there'd be more people seeking ways to earn tha…

You are indeed wrong, there's no infinite demand for everything

I surely can be, but I don’t see it so far. How the latter suggests the former? The demand doesn’t have to scale infinitely - I don’t believe the demand is or was anywhere near saturation.

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Post by deterministic »

VonGuard wrote: post #53
semiquaver wrote: post #31

> I've seen people supposedly smarter than I advocate for just giving in, conceding to AI coding as it's the future. But doing so means tossing out my friends who make art or the people who work their asses off to properly test and review code or the writers pouring all of their energy into even mundane dialogue. It means throwing out my dignity Conflating things in this inflammatory way is a big mistake. Using a tec…

The author is coming from the games industry. As an arts based industry, AI is EXTREMELY divisive. The author really will lose friends over even so much as touching AI in certain ways, because the artists that built the games industry were already badly abused, and now, they're being squeezed out entirely. For business developers, AI is somewhat less existentially terrifying, as it can be seen to be really empowering…

A friend of mine is an artist working in the games industry. So far nobody has been fired. They all simply started using AI to be more productive.

They care more about doing their job well than some artistic ideal that only works in practice if you don't have to care about things like food and shelter.

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Post by scuderiaseb »

I have been the lead of a very stressful project that was the highest priority for the company I work for and it was crucial to get this working as it was a hard deadline. I started using AI a lot, but I still read the code and sometimes it was so garbage. I had two developers with me, but they were both kind of new in the domain and one didn’t know the programming language. The project finished and the part my coworkers developed was fundamentally flawed, it worked for ~85% of the cases but not all and caused an incident.

Now I get to work with two of my other friends/colleagues and they are amazing. They don’t use AI at all and so neither do I and it is glorious. It is so nice to build things like this and honestly not meaningfully slower either. It took us some time to figure out all the details, edge cases and all. Writing tests first, I love it!

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Post by pixelatedindex »

rcbdev wrote: post #263
pixelatedindex wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I closed my linkedin, and I went to go work in the trades as a diesel mechanic. Love it! A score of years ago, I considered being an auto mechanic after graduating HS but then ended up back in CompSci. Did you have to go back to school? Did you find a shop that would take you in as an apprentice? And if they did, how did you convince them you can/will be good at the job?

Adore it! Why did you not become an auto mechanic, then?

Turns out that I was really out of my depth when it comes to ins and outs of a car at the chassis level. I also realized that if I can’t toy with it in my free time then I’m not going to pursue it as a career. Working on cars needs a lot of space which a broke college student doesn’t have.

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Post by aryehof »

Frankly I’m sad to hear it. There are just too many programmers - simple.

30 years ago or so, I was a contractor working on back-to-back 3 to 12 month C++ projects. I would typically get a call one day from a recruiter followed by a phone call (or maybe a quick meet or coffee) with someone technical on the project, and arrive and be in the codebase the next. That day I would get 2 calls about my availability.

There was no sh*t-show of continuous deployment, code reviews (even for trusted internal projects), and scrum-like ceremonies. There was instead version control, periodic tested releases, a weekly update meeting, a Friday team lunch at the pub, and trust.

Too many programmers (sorry err Engineers) - too few jobs, and the enshitification of an industry.

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Post by GolDDranks »

bayareateg wrote: post #129
GolDDranks wrote: post #83

I am currently quitting a company of 10 years of employment. And I keep hearing how everything's shit. Btw. I'm located in Tokyo where it isn't as bad, apparently, but... Let's see. My plan: - Have my own company and start looking for customers. (Rust consulting) - Keep looking for job opportunities, but don't succumb for shit jobs. It might be that I'm too hopeful, but you can't know unless you try. Anyway, I may jo…

Don't leave unless you have something lined up lol

I'm am not willing to wager my mental health for staying if I feel the current work environment would be detrimental for that.

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Post by GolDDranks »

radiator wrote: post #155
GolDDranks wrote: post #83

I am currently quitting a company of 10 years of employment. And I keep hearing how everything's shit. Btw. I'm located in Tokyo where it isn't as bad, apparently, but... Let's see. My plan: - Have my own company and start looking for customers. (Rust consulting) - Keep looking for job opportunities, but don't succumb for shit jobs. It might be that I'm too hopeful, but you can't know unless you try. Anyway, I may jo…

why not start looking for customers before quitting?

It's very hard when you are overworked to a near-burnout state. I needed to quit to save myself.

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Post by aryehof »

annzabelle wrote: post #186

It might also be foolish, but I'm mid-pivot to becoming an Actuary. They credential through a very transparent exam system, and interviews are relatively cursory, assuming you've passed the appropriate exams on the right timeline. I've got a math degree, and my software experience is all in the data engineering space, which seems to be in demand. I got laid off from a large company last summer, and took some time off…

Nice, I don’t think your foolish. Now you just need to ignore the jokes that say that Actuaries make Accountants look exciting!

A couple of decades ago I was leading a project migrating one of the main applications widely used by actuaries.

Those were the days - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48641095

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Post by gib444 »

h4kunamata wrote: post #247

DevOps isn't different!! 4 months to land a contract that lasted 2 years, and due to laws it could no longer be extended. 5 months to land another contract that only lasted 6 months, this is my last week at this place. I have been working in IT for near 20 years now, from dial-up to ADSL, from on-prem to cloud, from software to SaaS, from manual everything to GitHub and anything CI/CD related, from VM to Kubernetes,…

> 5 months to land another contract that only lasted 6 months

My god this is insanity

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