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Re: Steam Machine launches today

#771

Hope the Frame is available for pre-order soon as well! I know I’m going to pay more than the HW was worth a year ago because of “AI”, but I’m really looking forward to that one.

Since it’ll have a mobile SoC with baked in memory I’m hoping that the price won’t be too inflated!

It was my understanding that SoC memory comes from the same manufacturing processes as other RAM, it just gets integrated differently.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#772

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is why the frame will be the most interesting to the people on HN. A VR PC you can do whatever u want with.

Except without color AR it will not as many of the interesting things HNers want to do require it.

Like what? Provide examples please.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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I respect what Valve is doing here and I loved the Steam Deck but a prebuilt desktop PC with 16 GB system memory and 512 GB storage for $1,000+ is insulting. Those are specs that belong on a laptop or a lowend console offering like the Series S. I think this product is going to be hamstrung by its attempts to present as a midpoint between a PC and a console. The way this is being achieved seems to be by selling a dev…

To me it's not even the comparison with builds that's damning; it's the comparison with handhelds and other mini PCs. Most people excited by this probably have a Steam Deck or another handheld, so they have to be into playing a very specific slice of games that can run slightly better than the handheld.

For example, Forza 6 on high 1080p is 60 for SM vs 40 for high end handhelds and 30 for SD. Even at the original price, is it really worth $750? Not to mention that many handhelds and mini PCs also have USB4 ports that one could attach a retired GPU to get 60fps+ @ very high 2k, but the Steam Machine has no such port and only one NVMe slot.

So this is for people who are allergic to the existing solutions (plugging in your handheld, using Moonlight) or just like the brand, but I know it's going to still sell out. I just don't want to hear about extensibility, eco-friendliness, or cost effectiveness from a certain segment of gamers after this.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#774

> Steam Machine, like our other hardware products, is made up of many components that we source from manufacturers around the world. The price at which we sell our hardware is a direct result of the cost of these components. We felt like we had a good understanding of how those costs might change over time when we first started sourcing them for Steam Machine back in 2023. That understanding was born from the many ye…

Valve's communication around this release has redirected all rage towards Sam Altman rather than the Steam Machine.

Don't forget Trump and Hormuz!

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#775

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is why the frame will be the most interesting to the people on HN. A VR PC you can do whatever u want with.

Except without color AR it will not as many of the interesting things HNers want to do require it.

i can deal with folding my laundry in black and white

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#776
I don’t know for who this is if you can easily build a better mini pc yourself for cheaper

It’s dead on arrival

This is gonna be such a litmus paper test for the most fervent valve suckers

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#778

This is a weird thing to call out, when there's so much else to talk about (price, specs, etc) buuuuuut- Check out the gameplay video partway down the page, where the two people are on the couch playing Cuphead. Right under "Your Steam library in more places." It's just... a real clip of real people playing a real game and reacting in a real way. It's funny. I know it's stupid to call out, but how many exaggerated ve…

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They're humans playing games, so yeah it's a realistic representation. Anyone can be a gamer.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#779

> Steam Machine, like our other hardware products, is made up of many components that we source from manufacturers around the world. The price at which we sell our hardware is a direct result of the cost of these components. We felt like we had a good understanding of how those costs might change over time when we first started sourcing them for Steam Machine back in 2023. That understanding was born from the many ye…

I love it

I won’t buy it

But wow what a nice communication

That’s gonna look great on post mortem report

Re: Steam Machine launches today

#780
So awesome. If I needed/wanted a gaming PC or "family TV" gaming machine, I'd snag this for sure. I've had the Steam Deck since launch and it's really quite well-executed and I've logged hundreds of hours on it. SteamOS is totally decent and the level of polish has been continually improved. The price for the Machine is totally acceptable considering the market currently, particularly considering these [0][1][2] would be my options if I had $1500 CAD to spend on a gaming PC right now -- all machines with 8gb VRAM GPUs and 16GB of RAM.

[0] https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00135058

[1] https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/armoury-gaming-desktops/2...

[2] https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/gaming-desktop-pcs/275404...

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