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Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by dogwalker5000 »

b-kf wrote: post #79
hresvelgr wrote: post #8

Another language that is in a similar space to Zig that I think deserves more attention, particularly for funding is Odin. While I think Zig is a great language, there is a consistency of design and simplicity to Odin that makes low-level programming more ergonomic and enjoyable to me. While Zig boasts a lot of impressive projects, Odin was used to build the JangaFX suite[1]. [1] https://jangafx.com/

Appreciate Odin, especially the batteries included approach (simple to use structure of arrays, matrices, array programming, the context system for custom allocators, ...). To be fair though: the heavy lifting in JangaFX is likely done by a ton of C++ code, it being high performance real time graphics programming. I assume C++ outweighs Odin in their code base by a significant margin (accounting for all dependencies)…

JangFX is the company I believe. They have many products. One of them, EmberGen (a fluid simulator), is fully written in Odin. No idea what the rest are written in.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by Lerc »

pelasaco wrote: post #215
Lerc wrote: post #34

It's great to be in a position to do this, however I'm beginning to think that their greater contribution is ghostty I don't really know how to value things any more when I see someone develop a tool that is kind-of useful that then gets acquired for half a billion dollars. As someone with a decent number of decades of terminal hopping, the improvement that ghostty has brought a breath of fresh air. To me it has repr…

> however I'm beginning to think that their greater contribution is ghostty Is that meant as an argument in favor of "another $400k for Zig" or against it? I like Ghostty, but investing $800k to develop a programming language that is primarily known for producing a terminal emulator doesn't sound like a particularly strong argument in its favor. Genuine question. I’m not trolling.

It's just a recognition of things done.

If there is a greater message, most people could probably put a similar amount of work on a project for the community.

Not many can write a lege cheque for a cause. Many who can, do so and consider their job done.

It's a credit for someone to be able to do one but choose to do both.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by hack1312 »

copperx wrote: post #204
hack1312 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i switched from iTerm 2 on macOS because it would get bogged down sometimes or occasionally lag. it’s been noticeably faster and i appreciate the file-based config as well as the defaults, leading to my config being under 5 lines. on linux i use the default terminal in gnome which is ptyxis now iirc and haven’t felt any need to switch.

Don't you miss the crazy configuration options that iterm2 has?

the craziest thing i did with its config was to swap the profile being used based on the pattern of the instance’s hostname the terminal was logged into. The idea was to make the terminal background red on production hosts to give a visual indicator to avoid running anything destructive on prod hosts.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by strix_varius »

Jonovono wrote: post #242
nilsherzig wrote: post #181

If you're unsure about spending the time to learn Zig, I really recommend watching the following interview with the creator of Zig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqddnwKF8HQ convinced me more than any design doc or blogpost could

Very interesting, but wild to me how much this guy resembles Elon (in not only appearance but also mannerisms and way he speaks)

Yeah he's like the light side Elon. Happy with his life, his family, his choices. Content. Zen.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by orochimaaru »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #125
sph wrote: post #38

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You can 'throw' what you can afford and it will feel as satisfying. Just try it.

If you assume Hashimotos net worth is one billion dollars, a $400k donation is equivalent to a $400 donation if your net worth is one million dollars. I don’t believe donating $400 really feels that satisfying, the impact is fairly negligible in most contexts whereas donating $400k can very visibly improve a lot of lives. I think this illustrates just how much a billion dollars is and maybe why a very small wealth ta…

The small wealth tax will be spent not on people but on growing the government’s bureaucracy. Take highly taxed states (eg CA) and no tax/low tax states (eg TX). You pay more for in state tuition for your children in the UC system as opposed to in state tuition in Texas.

There are some advantages to tax. But most of it is not spent on making lives of citizens easier.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by Johanx64 »

sph wrote: post #47
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #32

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Money can very much buy happiness. Most of the things that make you unhappy can be remedied with money. How much money you need to accomplish that depends though.

> Most of the things that make you unhappy can be remedied with money Nonsense. Most of the things that can be remedied with money are not the truly painful things of life either. Will money save you from heartache? From the pain of losing a loved one? From being lonely? From having no respect from your peers? From losing your health to incurable cancer? At that point, all money can do for one is make them even more…

> Most of the things that can be remedied with money are not the truly painful things of life either.

Have you done the math of what life consists of for most people?

It's 9-to-5. Your life is DOMINATED - by large order of magnitude - by involuntary wage slavery. Where you literally sell away your time for pennies on a dollar to a highest bidder.

That is the most painful thing in life, bar none, there is nothing worse than this. This is what ruins most of your health, ages you the most, causes most of the stress, which seperates you from spending more time with your family and loved ones and being free and doing what you want.

Unless the wage-slavery happens to be of enjoyable type for you. Which is bit of an outlier, lets be honest.

> From having no respect from your peers?

Most people automatically give respect and admiration to people with money, regardless if it's deserved or not.

> Will money save you from heartache? From being lonely?

Being a 9-to-5 wage-slave is ten times worse than heartache or loneliness. Or most other things.

If you're lonely and aren't able to distract yourself from heartache and you have boatloads money, you have SKILL ISSUES of the most severe kind.

Money has brought nothing, but pure joy in my life.

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by Johanx64 »

darren0 wrote: post #20
cyber_kinetist wrote: post #9

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I really do not understand how people talk about "Being rich / being a billionaire will make you fundamentally unhappy". Damn if I had all the money I have so many good-willed projects I want to throw money at!

It will not make you unhappy. It will just not make you happy. Big difference. The saying "money can't buy happiness" is in fact true no matter how much people want to rationalize the opposite.

"money can't buy happiness" is a poor mans cope. It's a comforting lie for proletariat, the opium for the goycattle.

If you can't buy happiness either one of these is true:

1. You don't have enough money to buy it. Buying happiness isn't cheap.

2. You have skill issues.

Most people simply don't have enough money to test the hypothesis that "money can't buy happiness", for them earning money involves a lot of struggle and selling their time, and all sorts of opportunity costs.

Thus for working class people having more money is intrinsically linked to selling more of their time or "working harder" (having two jobs, overtime).

Therefore it seems unintuitive to them that having more money will bring hapiness. After all they have to work so hard for it and sell a piece of themselves for it.

And then there, of course, people with skill issues.

The more money I have, the happier I become. Money has brought nothing, but pure joy in my life, it has made me smile more!

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by throwaway2037 »

anotherevan wrote: post #241
Lerc wrote: post #34

It's great to be in a position to do this, however I'm beginning to think that their greater contribution is ghostty I don't really know how to value things any more when I see someone develop a tool that is kind-of useful that then gets acquired for half a billion dollars. As someone with a decent number of decades of terminal hopping, the improvement that ghostty has brought a breath of fresh air. To me it has repr…

The ctrl-tab tab switching behaviour being round-robin instead of stack[1] is what is keeping me on Konsole. None of the newer consoles (for Linux) seem to have this. [1] https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/discussions/2393

I can see that both styles could be useful to different types of users. Why not make it an option?

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by metaltyphoon »

peesem wrote: post #201
metaltyphoon wrote: post #184

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For me, anytype and the everything is public

all fields are public. declarations are private to the file they're in by default and then public if you choose to make them public

I guess I should have been more specific. I'm not a fan of fields all being public

Re: Pledging another $400k to the Zig software foundation

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Post by naishoya »

Johanx64 wrote: post #266
sph wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most of the things that make you unhappy can be remedied with money Nonsense. Most of the things that can be remedied with money are not the truly painful things of life either. Will money save you from heartache? From the pain of losing a loved one? From being lonely? From having no respect from your peers? From losing your health to incurable cancer? At that point, all money can do for one is make them even more…

> Most of the things that can be remedied with money are not the truly painful things of life either. Have you done the math of what life consists of for most people? It's 9-to-5. Your life is DOMINATED - by large order of magnitude - by involuntary wage slavery. Where you literally sell away your time for pennies on a dollar to a highest bidder. That is the most painful thing in life, bar none, there is nothing wors…

This, all day long... 9-5 is just the first job of the day if we're lucky.

Then there's the 7 to 2am second job, the 5 to 7 on Saturdays and Every Other Sunday.

Just to not actually have health insurance which is accepted at anything but the worst health care facilities in the region, with a 6 month waitlist for basic check-ups and a 60% fails or cancel for those appointments and reschedule 3 or more months away.

We are all ONE semi-serious illness or injury away from living out of a shopping cart under an overpass.

Money isn't the cure to ALL problems, but if the only problems you have left are the ones that cannot be solved by money, quit whining about being luckier than practically and statistically EVERYONE else. It is unbecoming and makes you look the fool.

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